If you take a peek in the top right corner, you'll see a little Logo featuring our favorite Maroon Prosecutor. This photo comes from the Captivate '09 event in Europe.

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Next, if you take a walk down to the official Kenji website, there's an opportunity to get some official cell phone backgrounds. I assume you have to be a resident of Japan, or at least have a Japanese Cell Phone to run though the gimmicks you need to jump through to get them, but there there if you're interested.

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Newly added are also a series of background images for, not your cell phone, but your computer.

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We're also late on reporting this, but the opera DVD went on sale in Japan 5 days ago. You may follow what we currently know about it in this topic.

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OH!
Ace Attorney Investigations!
a genuine photo or a composite photo!?

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Alright! I figured something would leak out of Captivate, embargo or no.

Hopefully this means a fairly fast English release.

I suppose it could be photoshopped, but let's have a bit of hope, eh?

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I'm quite sure it's real. Captivate'09 is going on in Europe as we speak.

Although the Fact that the logo is being 'projected' on wall has me curious. A new trailer perhaps? Croik wasn't able to offer me any incites. She mentioned they didn't use any projectors like that at Captivate'08.

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The logo is even worse than the title.

Yep, it looks real, if you look closely you can see "Miles" where Phoenix wright usually is in the English logos. YEY! :D
Hopefully the logo gets redone.

So the full title would then be "Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attorney Investigations" Or something to that effect. Not bad I suppose, though I still think Ace Attorney Investigations isn't a very catchy title. Oh well, I'm sure it'll grow on me.

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whatever the title is doesn't really matter. it's the content of the game that matters

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^ True that.

I like the new name, although I had hoped for just "Ace Attorney Investigations" without "Miles Edgeworth". Still, it's awesome news. Now it's pretty much confirmed that we're getting this.

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At least it won't be called "Miles Edgeworth: Perfect Prosecutor". It was irritating when even magazines were using that "dubbed" name. <_<

Agreed.

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Does this mean that we could hope for an earlier English release date?

Yay! The game is pretty much confirmed for an English release

The logo looks much better than I expected, though it can be simpler and nicer.

Oh well, Edgeworth is never a simple character,so it doesn't really matter.XD

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I made a mock up based on what we see...



I'm not a big fan of it >_>

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Now that I see that image the logo looks much better to me.

But you should change the Edgey-shape, and draw his mouth open. Then we'll see how the real logo would be.

EDIT: A little zoom-up:

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I made a slightly better version:



It's not perfect, but I am working with less resources than Capcom

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...Now THAT'S what I call....An "Ugly" Logo....

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Don't like the name.

Don't like the logo.

Mostly the name. (Which makes the logo bad. "Investigations" just sounds so... bleh T_T since it's the court part that's much more interesting. Even if we know that it's not like the GS investigations.)



Why couldn't they just give it a meaningless substitle that sounded cool, like for JFA and T&T?

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The other mock-ups that were in the other thread are much better than the official one.

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*sulks*

Whatever. Hopefully the game will be so fantastic that it'll distract us from the crap title.

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Why do I think the game's title is "not half bad"?

Serious answer, anyone?

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Because it's almost like Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney or Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney? Only with Investigations added to it, to indicate a spin-off?

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And because you investigate in it, making it title that accurately describes the game?

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Nah, probably because I'm really excited that we may get an official announcement in 2 days.

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Honestly, the name is fine. I don't see why people were so hyped up about the name, anyway. Is it Capcom of America's fault that people were so hyped up about the English name that they practically insisted that it would have an ultra-fancy name like "Perfect Prosecutor", as if it were some undeniable fact confirmed years ago? Seriously, I've never seen a fanbase go all over fake names like "Dennis" and "Perfect Prosecutor" like this fanbase has. Or maybe I don't go to enough anime fora. (Actually, last time I checked, making up English names for Japanese characters has been associated with Saturday morning cartoons for a while now, and this series took appropriate steps to avoid a similar association.)

If you're getting disappointed at how the game is turning out, it's your fault, not the developers'. Yes. It's your fault for giving the game certain expectations without ever even having played the game. Sure, we all have ideas for what the game could have, but this is just silly. For all the "thinking outside the box" this game promotes, some people here seem to have no such capability (unless, of course, they're playing Ace Attorney). In fact, they dump their so-called creativity on all the wrong things, like the aforementioned "Perfect Prosecutor" thing, or all those pairings that people are so insistent on. (I'm sorry, but you invalidate your right to say "it's just my opinion" once you insist that the pairing is "obvious", unless you like contradicting yourself.) This particular issue isn't restricted to this fanbase, obviously, but it's something to think about the next time you nerdrage about how the game isn't meeting your rigid expectations.

Honestly, if I had anything to say about the names, I'd say Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney was the most creative and effective name in the series by far, with Justice For All coming in at second eating some cheddar cheese. I hated the name Trials and Tribulations from the moment I read it; it was so freaking generic and clashed horribly with the idea that it was a final installment. But it signaled that the names weren't going to be that awesome, that they wouldn't have the "oomph" that the series title or the main character's name had. So I don't see why people are complaining about another generic name. In fact, I can't even conceive of what people were expecting with the English logo. It was clearly going to be the same as the Japanese one, as well as all the other logos.

Another thing is the way the administration has handled this. We all like to laugh at the good old days when any random Pokémon site could make up ways to increase your catch rate and claim ultimate authority over Pokémon information. But those days are over. I don't want to be harsh on the admins here, but this is 2009. Wikipedia is an old phenomenon. Huge, fanbase-monopolizing websites are an old phenomenon. It's now well-established that websites claiming authority should get the facts straight and fully explain and squelch rumours, not encourage or propagate them. While Court Records has done an otherwise fine job of doing this, one has to wonder why the forum implies boldly in at least two places (the AAI board's description and the AAI information thread) that "Perfect Prosecutor" is a legitimate name.

I'll admit that I get a little carried away sometimes, too, but we all have to remember two things:

1. Capcom can to whatever the hell it wants with the game, and will most likely buckle only to the most reasonable and widespread fan reactions, from Japan.

2. This game is likely to be very different from what you might be used to from the other four games.

Think about it. There's almost no telling what the game is going to be like, and thus no telling whether you will like what Capcom has done with the game. (OK. Slight exaggeration. But still!) So please quit whining about the game having no courtroom phase because the rigid definitions of "investigation" and "trial" that worked so well in describing the other games have no bearing whatsoever on this game. Think outside the box. Seriously, I've seen the effects of preconceived notions so many times during my time as admin on the Ace Attorney Wiki. I've had to explain in detail why Neil Marshall couldn't have been born in 1985, as then he would be 29 or 30, contradicting his autopsy report. It's kind of ironic how fans of a game that challenges people to remember the little details and shatter preconceived notions cannot even bother to do a simple fact-check to see whether their assumptions are right.

So please, give this game a chance to prove itself.

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Woah long post.

I just want a fancy gay name to match the fancy gay teacup.

BUT I'll love it eventually.

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@capefeather, paragraph by paragraph

Those we just names we made up that a majority of people liked and adopted. And once we adopted them, we hoped that Capcom would adopt them. I mean, whenever you make a prediction, don't you hope that you will be right? Once it's confirmed that AAI is the actual name, people are going to call it AAI (as people have already started to do) and stop calling it Perfect Prosecutor, and (I'm assuming) the admin is going to change the GK sub-forum info from PP to AAI. And we got hyped up on the name because we felt like it.

First off, if we have expectations for a game, and then those expectations are not met, the it is because of the developer. "Fault" is not the right word--"cause" is--and yes, if anyone is at "fault", it is you for having those expectations. And you say people dump their creativity on the "wrong things", like the name, so I'm going to assume the "right things" are the more important things like the characters, plot, and system. And guess what? People have been making theories about those things. It's just that it's easier to come up with a name than a character bio from a single piece of artwork, or an entire system for a game.

Well, they could have changed the base name from "Ace Attorney" to something else (like "Perfect Prosecutor"! :D) but they didn't. And then, in my opinion, the subtitle they chose didn't have as much "oomph" as JFA or T&T (even if T&T isn't that original). And we never really expected the game to be called "Turnabout Prosecutor" (ie exactly the same as the Japanese ver)

I don't think anybody ever said that GK is going to be dubbed "Perfect Prosecutor". It was always a guess. And it caught on, so everyone just called GK "Perfect Prosecutor", and everyone was fine with that. Some people like calling things by their English name, not their Japanese one; and since GK didn't have an English name, we made one up as a prediction to call it until we found out its real name.

1. I doubt Japan could care less about the dub name, or that Capcom would really care about what the fans think of the name (unless they chose something REALLY bad, like "Edgeworth's Magical Pogo Adventure" and they weren't selling any copies)

2. + Last Paragraph:
You're a little late with this, since we already have so much info about the game, including a demo :P

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Boy, what's with all the pent up frustration?

The reason I slapped on Perfect Prosecutor on the Prosecutor's Lobby was because the media had spontaneously and unanimously adopted that name for Kenji. Yes, it's a place holder that had no official backing what so ever; but if you were to talk to the random person about Gyakuten Kenji, they'll give you an odd look at the strange combination of vowels and consonants. If you say Perfect Prosecutor, something clicks. It's English, and it has the familiar play on words that Ace Attorney does.

No one ever said it was going to be the working title, and as soon as Capcom formally announces 'Ace Attorney Investigations' I'll swap the 'Perfect Prosecutor' blurb out of the Prosecutors Lobby. It's the official unofficial placeholder until the official title's been officially officiated.

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WALL OF TEXT omg.

Capefeather I understand, but it's not as if CR created or enforces "Perfect Prosecutor" as official. Lots of places have used the name and, like Wooster said, it's something everyone recognizes. As soon as AAI is official it's all we'll use and everyone will adjust just fine. It happens every time.

Names themselves are a huge part of the AA games - not because we fans put emphasis on them, but because the series itself does by using so many puns and cultural references. These days there aren't many games or anime that attempt to do full localizations the way that Capcom does with AA. When Square puts out an FF game the assumption is not that they're going to rename every character to something witty and meaningful in the target language and cover up the game's nation of origin. But that's how AA is, and that's why it creates such fertile ground for speculation.

Personally I think AAI is just fine. Naming speculation is all in good fun, and though there are some people who take it more seriously than they ought (as is the case with all things) there's nothing wrong with keeping your mind busy between the gaps in game releases.

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Well, I must one of the few who don't really care about the 'official' title. (Perhaps because it will always be Perfect Prosecutor for me xD I'm so used to that name, it will be hard to call it something else)
It's not really that bad, and to me, the official logo looks so much like GS2 and 3.

Guess they kept the Ace Attorney, to make sure it makes a connection with the AA series in people's mind.
(The same way the Japanese has the 'Gyakuten' in both GS and GK titles.

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The name...Well it sucks.
Can't lie 'bout that...

The logo is pretty much OK, but...
...Something in it isn't right...

Oh well...Still waiting EU release with excitement!! ^^
PS. Just like L~A, it will always be Perfect Prosecutor for me.

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The name isn't as good as I hoped for, but then again it could be much, much worse. Same with the logo. I PREFER the Perfect Prosecutor name/mock logos, but being an AA fan, I'll probably take almost anything they name it. Unless it was really, really bad.

It might take a while to grow on me... I remember struggling to remember Apollo's name. This one should be much easier for me.\

So, my only remaining complaint is that the game isn't released yet, but good things come with time .

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I was snooping the web for some more info on Captivate'09. The Embargo on the news outlets for Capcom's event in Europe expires on the 28th. So hold tight folks, we've got a few more days to wait before we even get word of a release date or whatnot.

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I don't think it's fair to complain about the logo just yet. All we've *officially* seen is a blurry projection. And honestly, the only difference it has to some of the mockups is the color and position of "Investigations." It's not like we didn't know it would have an Edgeworth silhouette with "Ace Attorney" in giant letters!

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I don't really care about the Ace Attorney on the logo. In fact, its helpful because if it was something like Perfect Prosecutor, then some people won't know its part of the Ace Attorney franchise. I agree on the fact that AA for GK doesn't make much sense in the fact that in the time the game takes place...



But...yeah, its easier to identify a game that's part of the AA series. As for the logo...meh. Could be better, but still fairly decent.

@ Croik: True. But for someone that hasn't played T&T, It MAY be confusing.

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Looking at it again, the logo isn't so bad but I still prefer the name "Ace Prosecutor". It just... sounds better.

People do realize that "prosecutor" is another term for "prosecuting attorney", right?

It's not like they're BSing the name by keeping it Ace Attorney.

I don't get all the hate over the "Investigations" title. It's a little weird, but I don't mind it. I'll probably end up calling it ME:AA most of the time anyways.

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I actually don't mind the name. ^_^

Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attornwy Investigations.

That actually flows better than I thought it would.

I don't mind the logo but it could be better. Can't wait for more info!

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Ah-hah! I'm not alone!
I mean, "Attorney" fits "Defense Attorney" and "Prosecuting Attorney". And since all the Ace Attorney games so far had defense attorneys as main characters, I guess people would have generalised "Attorney" as "Defense Attorney".

Now I think how bad "Ace Lawyer" would have been.
"Phoenix Wright: Ace Lawyer"
"Apollo Justice: Ace Lawyer"
But now, "Miles Edgeworth: Ace Prosecutor" sounds great.

"Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attorney Investigations"
Hmm. I repeat, it's not half bad.

I'm looking forward to AH! TOMORROW! *yes*

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