Wouldn't Yew Like to Know *EXTREME SPOILERS*

Magatama Maya · Post by **Magatama Maya** » Sat May 08, 2010 1:13 am

Welcome all! This topic is devoted to finding out the truth about Calisto Yew.

Spoiler: AAI case 5

That's where we come in. By using Edgey's Logical Cravat Method, we can figure out her entire back-story.

But Edgey likes to be neat and orderly. So there will be a certain procedure that is to be followed.

You can contribute any of the following. (Or hold a little discussion about someone else's contribution.) All contributions must be labeled accordingly.

1. An Inquisitive Question

You can just post a question you want to have answered about Calisto. I will make a collection of them in my second post. These questions will be among the things we'll aim to answer in this topic.

Examples:

Spoiler: AAI case 5

2. An Information Deposit

This will be added to the Information Bank, which will be in the second post I make in this topic. Things that would go under this type of contribution would be stuff we already know. This stuff must be actual facts, so we will have something to build on. It's kind of like those little Logic bubbles that float around in Edgey's mind.

Examples:

Spoiler: AAI case 5

3. A Logical Leap

This is like the little thing Edgey does when he yells, "Eureka!" When you post one of these, you can yell "Eureka!" too, if you like. It should be a logical conclusion about Calisto based on evidence in the Information Bank. The conclusions from Logical Leaps will be added to the Information Bank and can be used to fuel more Logical Leaps. However, they can be argued with, and if they are proven wrong will be removed from the Information Bank.

Example:

Spoiler: AAI case 5

4. A Conjecture Explosion

If you come up with a crazy theory with little to back it up, post it as a Conjecture Explosion. However, we do expect you to have something to back up your theory, although it doesn't have to be from the Information Bank. Conjecture Explosions are treated as just that: conjecture. They are not added to the Information Bank. However, they can be debated over, and are meant to make people think, but should be used sparingly.

Example:

Spoiler: AAI case 5

Now it's your turn. Respond to my examples or come up with ones of your own!

Magatama Maya · Post by **Magatama Maya** » Sat May 08, 2010 1:19 am

The Reference Section

Spoiler: Inquisitive Questions - AAI spoilers

Spoiler: Information Bank - AAI spoilers

Calisto has freckles.
Shih-na does not have freckles.
Shih-na wears foundation.
Calisto's freckles are real, and she wears the foundation to cover them when she poses as Shih-na.
Shih-na tried to murder Kay Faraday.
Seeing as she tried to murder Byrne's daughter, it is possible that she actually felt no guilt about killing him.
In the Japanese version, it more implies that she HAD to kill him, without specifying if Quercus directly ordered her to, unlike the localized version.
She had an attorney badge, but it is unclear whether it is legitimate or fake.
Calisto Yew's age was listed as 22 at the time of AAI-4.
Calisto is one third of the Yatagarasu.
The Yatagarasu functioned because it had a defense attorney, a prosecutor, and a detective.
She probably was a defense attorney before joining/forming the Yatagarasu, as that is the reason she contributed to the group.
She may had Alba create a cover-up background and/or fake family.
Calisto pretended to be Cece Yew's older sister.
Calisto pretended to be an Interpol agent named Shih-na.
Alba was the one who created the "Calisto Yew" story for her to pretend to be.
Alba also told her to pose as Shih-na.
Calisto Yew has very dark brown eyes, where as Shih-na's eyes are ... red?
Calisto Yew is the one with contacts and red is her real eye-color.
Shih-na has fangs.
Shih-na's skin is slightly more pale than Calisto's skin.
Shih-na is a vampire
Shih-na has amazing white teeth, fangs, and a boa.
Lang has amazing white teeth, fangs, and a boa.
The boa was a present from Lang.
Lang was shocked at her secret identity.
Lang's official art shows them back to back.
They may be boyfriend and girlfriend.
Calisto was nineteen when she began pretending to be Cece's sister.
A international smuggling ring is not going to trust a brand new or inexperienced member to go undercover and do such an important job for them.
The smuggling ring also would not hire children.
Calisto joined the smuggling ring when she was an underaged teenager.
Calisto uses make up very often.
Shih-na's skin tone may be her real tone of the skin.
Lang was in Zheng Fa when Calisto received her orders. So she had to have been to Zheng Fa.
During her time with Lang in Zheng Fa, she must have gotten more orders from the ring.
Shih-na's fangs are longer than her other teeth.
That means that Shih-na could not have sharpened her teeth. The fangs are either real (meaning that she's a vampire) or fake fangs she put over her real teeth.
Calisto is a genus of butterfly.
Alba is the ambassador of Allebahst.
Akbey Hicks, Lang, and Shih-na were in Zheng Fa.
Akbey was killed by Cammy Meele after his trip to Zheng Fa.
Shih-na was spying on Hicks posing as an Interpol agent also.
Cece Yew had already died when Calisto posed as her sister.
The pick is wet. However, Shih-na is not wet.

The Red Dahlia · Post by **The Red Dahlia** » Sat May 08, 2010 12:35 pm

Ooh wow, I love the whole procedure for this thread! So legal, so chic.

1. Inquisitive Question

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2. Information Bank

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3. Logical Leap

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4. Conjecture Explosion

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Magatama Maya · Post by **Magatama Maya** » Sat May 08, 2010 1:47 pm

Thanks, The Red Dahlia! :edgy:

I have a question for you:
Inquisitive Question

Spoiler:

Post by **Croik** » Sat May 08, 2010 2:06 pm

Wheee pointless procedure! It's kinda fun :B

Information Deposit

Spoiler:

Clam · Post by **Clam** » Mon May 10, 2010 12:53 am

Inquisitive Question

Spoiler:

Haik · Post by **Haik** » Mon May 10, 2010 8:26 pm

Question:

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Information Deposit:

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Assumption:

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fatalfeline · Post by **fatalfeline** » Mon May 10, 2010 9:28 pm

Haik wrote:Information Deposit:
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She had an attorney badge, meaning she was a premitted lawyer.

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Now...

Information Deposit:

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Inquisitive Question:

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Magatama Maya · Post by **Magatama Maya** » Tue May 11, 2010 8:49 pm

Thank you all for caring about and contributing to my topic!!!

Clamerdin wrote:Inquisitive Question
Spoiler:
How did she join Interpol?

Information Deposit

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Logical Leap

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Tenderlender · Post by **Tenderlender** » Tue May 11, 2010 9:56 pm

Really weird, random theory coming up here:

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The Red Dahlia · Post by **The Red Dahlia** » Sun May 16, 2010 2:39 am

Croik wrote:
Information Deposit

Spoiler:
I'm pretty sure in the Japanese version Calisto's line is closer to "It's not like I killed him because I wanted to." I'll have to check to be sure, but I think it's a bit more insightful than "It wasn't a very pleasant mission." It more implies that she HAD to kill him, without specifying if Quercus directly ordered her to, unlike the localized version.

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Ahh, that's interesting, thanks for that little gem of knowledge! Hm, the possibilities are endless...

Magatama Maya wrote:Thanks, The Red Dahlia!

I have a question for you:
Inquisitive Question
Spoiler:
If Calisto masterminded the whole thing (not sure if she did or not) what would her motive be? What would she be trying to accomplish?

Conjecture Implosion!

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Tenderlender wrote:Really weird, random theory coming up here:
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Maybe she's actually related to Godot... They're both a bit snobby, and good at arguing...

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Ok, so I should contribute something serious now:

Spoiler: Information Bank

Magatama Maya · Post by **Magatama Maya** » Wed May 19, 2010 11:02 pm

Haik wrote:Question:
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What was she doing before AAI case 4? (What's her back-story?)

Information Deposit:
Spoiler:
She had an attorney badge, meaning she was a premitted lawyer.

Assumption:
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She became a part of the ring when she was about to finish learning law, or after it. Otherwise, it was not worthwhile to employ someone when it just started to study.

Now that I think about it, you might be onto something...

Information Deposit:

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Logical Leap:

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HyperShadic · Post by **HyperShadic** » Fri May 21, 2010 1:46 pm

Magatama Maya wrote:
Spoiler: AAI case 5
Conjecture Explosion

Maybe Calisto's real name is Raven. Think about it - that could be why they're called the Yatagarasu, or three-legged raven.

Conjecture Explosion

Spoiler:

Ramika · Post by **Ramika** » Fri May 21, 2010 2:19 pm

I f'ing love this thread. Also, this isn't helping the fact that Yew is becoming my newest obsession. :D

Inquisitive Question:

Spoiler:

Clam · Post by **Clam** » Fri May 21, 2010 7:24 pm

Deposit:

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This is fun! :will:

Magatama Maya · Post by **Magatama Maya** » Mon May 31, 2010 4:16 pm

Clamerdin wrote:Deposit:
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She may had Alba create a cover-up background and/or fake family.

Information Deposit

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Logical Leap

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Ramika · Post by **Ramika** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:54 am

Information deposit:

Spoiler:

Logical leap:

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Yeah, I'm doing a third nightshift in a row and I'm about to fall asleep any minute, so... I think about Calisto Yew's eye-color. :D;;

Magatama Maya · Post by **Magatama Maya** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:07 pm

Okay, I can't take it anymore. I'm going to name the elephant in room.

Ramika wrote:Information deposit:

Spoiler:
Calisto Yew has very dark brown eyes, where as Shih-na's eyes are ... red?

Information Deposit:

Spoiler: AAI case 5

Logical Leap:

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P!ATD · Post by **P!ATD** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:08 pm

Oh my god, that's the coolest theory ever. =]

...I've nothing else useful to add at the moment, I'll think of something later. :bellboy:

Clam · Post by **Clam** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:52 pm

Info Deposit

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Info Deposit

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Conjecture Explosion

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Logical Leap

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Info Deposit

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Conjecture Explosion/Logical Leap

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Ramika · Post by **Ramika** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:25 am

I'll have to break the awesome template of this thread, cause once again I'm at work, it's 5:30 am and I can't think of how to label this theory...

Spoiler: Anyways...

P!ATD · Post by **P!ATD** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:06 am

Nah, I can't see Shih-na and Shi-Long dating or anything, they just seem like really, really close friends to me.

P!ATD · Post by **P!ATD** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:41 pm

Sorry for double-posting. DX

Spoiler: Inquisitive Question

Spoiler: Information Deposit

Spoiler: Logical Leap

Which kind of makes you wonder about her childhood.

I hope I did that right...

Auraion · Post by **Auraion** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:59 am

Info deposit

Spoiler:

Logical leap

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A Conjecture Explosion

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Yeah, I'm probably wrong

Steel Samurai · Post by **Steel Samurai** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:02 am

It could be possible since Alba and Coachen were both originally from Cohdopia that Calisto was a Cohdopian as well. Just a wild guess...

-SS

PollyGramarye · Post by **PollyGramarye** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:11 am

P!ATD wrote:
Spoiler: Logical Leap
Calisto joined the smuggling ring when she was an underaged teenager.

Spoiler: Inquistitive Question

P!ATD · Post by **P!ATD** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:47 pm

I dunno. Maybe they just didn't care about her age, once she could do her job well. Or maybe there was some sort of advantage to having a teenager in the group. I dunno.

Spoiler: Unless....Conjecture Explosion

And I agree with Auraion's theory, I think she might really look like Shih-na.

Dark Coffee Drinker · Post by **Dark Coffee Drinker** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:57 pm

Lemme try:

Spoiler: Inquisitive Question

Spoiler: Information Deposit

Spoiler: Logical Leap

Spoiler: Conjecture Explosion

But that leaves the question:

Spoiler: Inquisitive Question

Hope I did this right!

PollyGramarye · Post by **PollyGramarye** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:12 pm

P!ATD wrote:
Spoiler: Unless....Conjecture Explosion
Alba's her dad, and he wanted her to join the 'family business' at a young age........... Uh, yeah. When I was playing AAI, I honestly thought he was her dad. I was surprised when they never said anything about it.

That seems to make sense, but if that's so wouldn't that be important enough to mention, or at least imply?

Dark Coffee Drinker · Post by **Dark Coffee Drinker** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:27 pm

PollyGramarye wrote:
P!ATD wrote:
Spoiler: Unless....Conjecture Explosion
Alba's her dad, and he wanted her to join the 'family business' at a young age........... Uh, yeah. When I was playing AAI, I honestly thought he was her dad. I was surprised when they never said anything about it.

That seems to make sense, but if that's so wouldn't that be important enough to mention, or at least imply?

Good point. They probably wouldn't skip over something like that. But maybe...

Spoiler: Conjecture Explosion

Just a thought.

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:53 am

Even though Franciska said Castillo Yew hasn't changed a bit in 7 years, she was probably the character who changed the most from that flashback case.

P!ATD · Post by **P!ATD** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:32 pm

Dark Coffee Drinker wrote:
PollyGramarye wrote:
P!ATD wrote:
Spoiler: Unless....Conjecture Explosion
Alba's her dad, and he wanted her to join the 'family business' at a young age........... Uh, yeah. When I was playing AAI, I honestly thought he was her dad. I was surprised when they never said anything about it.

That seems to make sense, but if that's so wouldn't that be important enough to mention, or at least imply?

Good point. They probably wouldn't skip over something like that. But maybe...
Spoiler: Conjecture Explosion
Alba is her Grandpa. That would make it more plausible. Plus, it wouldn't be as big of a thing to skip over than Alba being her dad.

Just a thought.

~~Maybe he's her father AND her grandfather!!!~~

I just checked the character pages, and he's 43 years older than her, so it's possible for her to be either his child or his grandchild, age-wise.

Why they didn't mention it....maybe it just wasn't something either of them wanted to share with Edgeworth. I dunno. Or maybe Shih-na didn't know he was her dad/granda or something. XD

Ha ha, I don't even know why I'm arguing this, I don't even think they're related any more, it was only when I was playing the game. XD

Dark Coffee Drinker · Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:27 pm

I'm thinking that if Magatama Maya doesn't sign in by the 17th, I'm probably going to redo the topic just so that we can keep this fun little thread going. :godot:

P!ATD · Post by **P!ATD** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:05 pm

If you ask the mods, they'll make you be the topic creator so you can edit the first post.

So does anyone else have anything to say about Calisto?

Dark Coffee Drinker · Post by **Dark Coffee Drinker** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:29 am

P!ATD wrote:If you ask the mods, they'll make you be the topic creator so you can edit the first post.

So does anyone else have anything to say about Calisto?

That's probably a good idea. I'll go see if I can find anything.

Magatama Maya · Post by **Magatama Maya** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:05 am

Dark Coffee Drinker wrote:I'm thinking that if Magatama Maya doesn't sign in by the 17th, I'm probably going to redo the topic just so that we can keep this fun little thread going.

I'm sooooo sorry! :nixiesob:

Okay, I was going to update the thread every week, but when I went on, people were talking about how much Lang and Shih-na are in love, and I really, really didn't want anything to do with that conversation. Then there were a LOT of posts, so I kind of procrastinated... I'm really sorry.

Anyway...

Information Deposit

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Logical Leap

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Regarding the theory that Shih-na and Alba are related:

Information Deposit

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Conjecture Explosion

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Robo-Aly · Post by **Robo-Aly** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:29 am

I don't really have much to offer but a contradiction in the second post:

Calisto has freckles.
Shih-na does not have freckles.
Shih-na wears foundation.
Calisto's freckles are real, and she wears the foundation to cover them when she poses as Shih-na.
Shih-na's skin is slightly more pale than Calisto's skin.
Calisto uses make up very often.
Shih-na's skin tone is her real tone of the skin.

So she uses a foundation to make her skin darker when she's Calisto, but those are her real freckles? The foundation would cover them up. It's possible that the reason her skin is a bit more dark is because she's more tanned; this would explain the freckles, too. It's also possible to have used a white powder to make her skin look more pale.

Also, freckles drawn on with make up look rather unnatural. My guess is that it's probably a combination of tanning/avoiding the sun and using a lighter make up later on.

Dark Coffee Drinker · Post by **Dark Coffee Drinker** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:43 am

Yes! You're back! :godot:

I'm glad we can keep this little thread going.

I have just found out the answer to the question I raised in my pervious deduction.

Spoiler: Inquisitive Question

Spoiler: Information Deposit

Spoiler: Logical Leap

Spoiler: Conjecture Explosion

Denn1s · Post by **Denn1s** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:17 pm

Spoiler: Inquisitive Question

Robo-Aly · Post by **Robo-Aly** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:59 pm

Cece was dead and couldn't do much talking in that state.