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Slight spoilers for returning characters, localized names, and plot elements.
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Things that Capcom said they could not answer:
When the game will be released
Cost
DLC
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a) Release Date
b) Number of cases
c) Confirmation of new characters
That's all from me.
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Apparently product details won't be revealed today.
I'm going to try to ask anyway
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Uhm, call me stupid, but where is the stream?
http://www.twitch.tv/capcomunity
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Fall 2013 is anywhere from September to December, so there's still a lot of unknowns about the release.
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- The english name for the new detective is Fulbright.
- The jurist system is not going to show up
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ADA McCoy wrote:
No Jury system :(
Not surprising, given that the Jurist System did nothing less than negate the eternal thorn in your side (and sustainer of player tension) of the series: insufficient evidence. Its introduction in GS4 was as strong an indication as any that Takumi intended the series to end with that game. It will be interesting to see if they even attempt to explain why this system Phoenix worked so long and hard to bring back isn't sticking around. Too open to exploitation, perhaps?
ADA McCoy wrote:
NEW DETECTIVE IS CALLED Detective Full Bright
I really hate it when the localization team gives characters names that aren't even names. Oh well, I guess I would've been referring to him in my head as "Detective Bright" anyway, so no big deal.
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They referred to him as Detective <Fulbright>, so I'm pretty sure that's his last name.
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blahmoomoo wrote:
Fulbright is a real name, not fake. Assuming they spell it that way, at least.
They referred to him as Detective <Fulbright>, so I'm pretty sure that's his last name.
They referred to him as Detective <Fulbright>, so I'm pretty sure that's his last name.
Ah, that sounds fine then. I was reacting to the spelling in the original post (Full Bright).
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ADA McCoy wrote:
No Jury system :(
Not surprising, given that the Jurist System did nothing less than negate the eternal thorn in your side (and sustainer of player tension) of the series: insufficient evidence. Its introduction in GS4 was as strong an indication as any that Takumi intended the series to end with that game. It will be interesting to see if they even attempt to explain why this system Phoenix worked so long and hard to bring back isn't sticking around. Too open to exploitation, perhaps?
That's it.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
No Jury system :(
...what.
Establishing the Jury system was only, like the ENTIRE POINT of AJ and now they're just...I...huh? I really hope there is an adequate explanation for this.
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shadowofedgeworth wrote:
blahmoomoo wrote:
Fulbright is a real name, not fake. Assuming they spell it that way, at least.
They referred to him as Detective <Fulbright>, so I'm pretty sure that's his last name.
They referred to him as Detective <Fulbright>, so I'm pretty sure that's his last name.
Ah, that sounds fine then. I was reacting to the spelling in the original post (Full Bright).
Sorry about that, i was writing it quickly.
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...what.
Establishing the Jury system was only, like the ENTIRE POINT of AJ and now they're just...I...huh? I really hope there is an adequate explanation for this.
Establishing the Jury system was only, like the ENTIRE POINT of AJ and now they're just...I...huh? I really hope there is an adequate explanation for this.
Yeah I'm very disappointed in this. It seemed like with the new courtroom look and the plot that the jury would have fit in there.
I just hope they actually explain it in a way that makes sense.
Edit: I edited the post to make it more understandable.
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The bombing took down the courtroom that likely served a large portion of Los Angeles, so without a courtroom, LA has to fit double the cases into another courtroom somewhere else. It could very well be that, with twice the cases, there isn't enough time to go through the Jurist system, so they temporarily reinstated the Initial Trial system until the old one can be rebuilt.
That's my guess, at least. If it's been removed for good then I will flip.
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TheBlarghMan wrote:
I was pretty disappointed in the lack of the jury system, until I realized there's a fairly simple explanation as to why the Jurist System isn't returning.
The bombing took down the courtroom that likely served a large portion of Los Angeles, so without a courtroom, LA has to fit double the cases into another courtroom somewhere else. It could very well be that, with twice the cases, there isn't enough time to go through the Jurist system, so they temporarily reinstated the Initial Trial system until the old one can be rebuilt.
That's my guess, at least. If it's been removed for good then I will flip.
The bombing took down the courtroom that likely served a large portion of Los Angeles, so without a courtroom, LA has to fit double the cases into another courtroom somewhere else. It could very well be that, with twice the cases, there isn't enough time to go through the Jurist system, so they temporarily reinstated the Initial Trial system until the old one can be rebuilt.
That's my guess, at least. If it's been removed for good then I will flip.
That would make sense if the bomb was strong enough to close off at least half the courthouse (for structural reasons). I doubt that'd be the the reason the Jurist system was stopped, but it's a good idea nonetheless.
Also, I would think the detective's name would be Fulbright, as Fullbright shows up as a spelling error for me (and Google corrects it too).
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Also, I would think the detective's name would be Fulbright, as Fullbright shows up as a spelling error for me (and Google corrects it too).
I fixed it in the original post. Thanks!
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blahmoomoo wrote:
TheBlarghMan wrote:
I was pretty disappointed in the lack of the jury system, until I realized there's a fairly simple explanation as to why the Jurist System isn't returning.
The bombing took down the courtroom that likely served a large portion of Los Angeles, so without a courtroom, LA has to fit double the cases into another courtroom somewhere else. It could very well be that, with twice the cases, there isn't enough time to go through the Jurist system, so they temporarily reinstated the Initial Trial system until the old one can be rebuilt.
That's my guess, at least. If it's been removed for good then I will flip.
The bombing took down the courtroom that likely served a large portion of Los Angeles, so without a courtroom, LA has to fit double the cases into another courtroom somewhere else. It could very well be that, with twice the cases, there isn't enough time to go through the Jurist system, so they temporarily reinstated the Initial Trial system until the old one can be rebuilt.
That's my guess, at least. If it's been removed for good then I will flip.
That would make sense if the bomb was strong enough to close off at least half the courthouse (for structural reasons). I doubt that'd be the the reason the Jurist system was stopped, but it's a good idea nonetheless.
Also, I would think the detective's name would be Fulbright, as Fullbright shows up as a spelling error for me (and Google corrects it too).
Well, we know that at the very least the bomb caused enough damage for the old courthouse to be abandoned for the time being, since the game takes place at a different courthouse.
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Ace-Attorney-5-Screenshots-Show-Finger-Pointing-Destruction-46561.html
I really, really hope that this is the reason why (or some other explanation that I haven't thought of and doesn't involve getting rid of the Jurist system permanently). Just deciding to get rid of the Jurist system would remove half of the point of Turnabout Succession.
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TheBlarghMan wrote:
blahmoomoo wrote:
TheBlarghMan wrote:
I was pretty disappointed in the lack of the jury system, until I realized there's a fairly simple explanation as to why the Jurist System isn't returning.
The bombing took down the courtroom that likely served a large portion of Los Angeles, so without a courtroom, LA has to fit double the cases into another courtroom somewhere else. It could very well be that, with twice the cases, there isn't enough time to go through the Jurist system, so they temporarily reinstated the Initial Trial system until the old one can be rebuilt.
That's my guess, at least. If it's been removed for good then I will flip.
The bombing took down the courtroom that likely served a large portion of Los Angeles, so without a courtroom, LA has to fit double the cases into another courtroom somewhere else. It could very well be that, with twice the cases, there isn't enough time to go through the Jurist system, so they temporarily reinstated the Initial Trial system until the old one can be rebuilt.
That's my guess, at least. If it's been removed for good then I will flip.
That would make sense if the bomb was strong enough to close off at least half the courthouse (for structural reasons). I doubt that'd be the the reason the Jurist system was stopped, but it's a good idea nonetheless.
Also, I would think the detective's name would be Fulbright, as Fullbright shows up as a spelling error for me (and Google corrects it too).
Well, we know that at the very least the bomb caused enough damage for the old courthouse to be abandoned for the time being, since the game takes place at a different courthouse.
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Ace-Attorney-5-Screenshots-Show-Finger-Pointing-Destruction-46561.html
I really, really hope that this is the reason why (or some other explanation that I haven't thought of and doesn't involve getting rid of the Jurist system permanently). Just deciding to get rid of the Jurist system would remove half of the point of Turnabout Succession.
Ah, I missed the detail that the old courthouse was completely abandoned.
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shadowofedgeworth wrote:
I really hate it when the localization team gives characters names that aren't even names. Oh well, I guess I would've been referring to him in my head as "Detective Bright" anyway, so no big deal.
Well to be fair Phoenix isn't a real name either.
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The voice actor for Nick in UMvC 3 was alright but he needs to put more umpf in his Objections.
I didn't like him at all in UMvC3 but I actually thought his Objection in the english trailer for DD wasn't bad at all. in fact, I like it better than the original Objection! noise.
Having said that, we still haven't heard any cutscenes by him, so he might still not be that great.
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TheBlarghMan wrote:
Well, we know that at the very least the bomb caused enough damage for the old courthouse to be abandoned for the time being, since the game takes place at a different courthouse.
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Ace-Attorney-5-Screenshots-Show-Finger-Pointing-Destruction-46561.html
I really, really hope that this is the reason why (or some other explanation that I haven't thought of and doesn't involve getting rid of the Jurist system permanently). Just deciding to get rid of the Jurist system would remove half of the point of Turnabout Succession.
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Ace-Attorney-5-Screenshots-Show-Finger-Pointing-Destruction-46561.html
I really, really hope that this is the reason why (or some other explanation that I haven't thought of and doesn't involve getting rid of the Jurist system permanently). Just deciding to get rid of the Jurist system would remove half of the point of Turnabout Succession.
It's not a different courthouse. Only courtroom No. 4 was bombed, and it has the same build as courtroom No. 5. What's new about them is the interior design from GS4 to GS5.
Capcom most likely rushed through development so that implementing a jury would take too much trouble. Now, I don't see why it'd be so difficult to include an anonymous group of people watching from their chambers and making a vote, but I suppose it'd be better than just a few extra lines of dialogue at the end of the trial about the jury's verdict. This game had potential for a completely new game play mechanic involving the jury's wavering opinion, but they didn't go that route. Perhaps they're saving it for a future game?
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a) The courts still need to test the system out with more test trials, thus it's not implemented yet.
b) The dark days of law (ie corruption) prevented the jurist system from being rolled out.
Depends how they do it, but that would roll out quite nicely for me.
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Well, the easiest way I can see for Capcom to not implement the jurist system yet is because of either the two reasons.
a) The courts still need to test the system out with more test trials, thus it's not implemented yet.
b) The dark days of law (ie corruption) prevented the jurist system from being rolled out.
Depends how they do it, but that would roll out quite nicely for me.
a) The courts still need to test the system out with more test trials, thus it's not implemented yet.
b) The dark days of law (ie corruption) prevented the jurist system from being rolled out.
Depends how they do it, but that would roll out quite nicely for me.
You bring up some good points. Politics may have a large role in this game after all. It also explains Phoenix's return to court and Edgeworth's rise in position... and possibly Maya's secret role in the plot. For them to keep her presence so hushed, she ought to have a rather spoiler-filled role, right? I hope so.
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There are countless reasons for the writer to get rid of it, I don't really get why many of you always imagine the worst.
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You guys do realize the jury trial was only a test trial in AJ? They could have easily chosen not to use it afterwards.
There are countless reasons for the writer to get rid of it, I don't really get why many of you always imagine the worst.
There are countless reasons for the writer to get rid of it, I don't really get why many of you always imagine the worst.
Pretty much this. Can anyone clarify if the game said the Jurist System was really implemented. It didn't help that Phoenix was pretty much controlling it either.
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Well to be fair Phoenix isn't a real name either.
Yeah, it kinda is...
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WTF? I was looking forward to seeing what they'd do with that, maybe you would have to persuade the jury as well as the judge, or something.
Anyway I thought the jury system was introduced in GS4 to reflect changes in the actual law system in Japan, so why have they dropped it? It just.. doesnt make any sense!
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I'm shocked that after 6 consecutive AA games, Gumshoe has been removed! (He may be mentioned) Although I am happy that they hinted at Maya. That's 1 of the 3 that people expected to return.
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I have mixed feelings about Ema Skye not returning as a detective. After all, she only got to be detective for one game. However, I recently tried replaying the 4th game on my 3DS, and it's hard to do the fingerprints with the location of the microphone versus the first DS or the DS Lite. Aside from that, though, I had fun doing all the CSI-style work. Not all THAT attached to the character either way.
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Here's the thing about about the Jurist system not continuing on from 4 to 5. Besides, even in that case, the judge could still declare the defendant guilty without the aid of the jury there. It just overcomplicates the gameplay.
I have mixed feelings about Ema Skye not returning as a detective. After all, she only got to be detective for one game. However, I recently tried replaying the 4th game on my 3DS, and it's hard to do the fingerprints with the location of the microphone versus the first DS or the DS Lite. Aside from that, though, I had fun doing all the CSI-style work. Not all THAT attached to the character either way.
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I have mixed feelings about Ema Skye not returning as a detective. After all, she only got to be detective for one game. However, I recently tried replaying the 4th game on my 3DS, and it's hard to do the fingerprints with the location of the microphone versus the first DS or the DS Lite. Aside from that, though, I had fun doing all the CSI-style work. Not all THAT attached to the character either way.
Well Fulbright might be tied to Simon so it's possible that Ema might return when Edgeworth is the prosecutor.
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1. They BETTER HAVE A GOOD EXPLANATION for the disappearance of the Jurist System.
2. I like Fulbright. It's a real last name and it looks like it fits the the guy.
3. Maya hype is good hype.
4. Damn stepladder spammers. Of course it's coming back, damn.
5. I really need a new trailer. I really really need it.
6. I want 6 cases for some reason. Or like 7.
7. I want Sam Riegel to do a good job, and I want Scott Menville for Apollo.
8. I cannot fucking wait for this game. Hype hype hype
That's all I have to say
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6. I want 6 cases for some reason. Or like 7.
They said "roughly same amount of content as T&T". That would be horrible for anything more than 5 cases. It'll be 4 meaty cases or 5 cases where one (after the first one) will be shorter than the others.
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2. The Jurist system will not be returning
Wait, what was the whole point of Apollo Justice, then, if they introduce the Jury System in that thing and then chuck it out the window immediately? Total bull, man, and that destroys my idea of the gameplay requiring me to convince the Jury onto my side. And the whole corrupt Jury thing. And the initial suspicion the Jury could have, depending on who the defendant is.
4. Simon Blackquill is a convicted prosecutor who uses psychological manipulation on his opponents and the Judge
So he's basically gonna be a dick who uses wordplays and similar to confuse opponents? How is that any different from the previous prosecutors?
5. The recurring Stepladder joke returns in Dual Destinies
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Let it DIE, Capcom, let it DIE!! The joke hasn't been funny since Justice For All!
6. Maya hinted as a returning character? (No denial of Maya)
7. Detective Gumshoe will not be in Dual Destinies (Most likely)
Oh sure, bringing in Detective Gumshoe, who was Edgeworth's partner for years is just so dumb! But Maya, that little hyperactive
8. Simon's Detective is named Detective Fulbright
Okay, can I just say that I find his name hilarious because - except for that extra L - that is the name of an American Law Firm?
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7. I want Sam Riegel to do a good job, and I want Scott Menville for Apollo.
Scott Menville? What, the guy that gave Lloyd Irving a total 12-year-old voice in Symphonia?
No thanks... he can't voice a 17 year old properly, I shudder at what he'll do with a 23 year old man.
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Lusankya wrote:
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6. I want 6 cases for some reason. Or like 7.
They said "roughly same amount of content as T&T". That would be horrible for anything more than 5 cases. It'll be 4 meaty cases or 5 cases where one (after the first one) will be shorter than the others.
I seem to remember AAI having as much content as T&T. Am I wrong there? Did AAi have more/less? Because now that I think about it I'd think he'd reference his own game if he was going to mention one.
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6. Maya hinted as a returning character? (No denial of Maya)
7. Detective Gumshoe will not be in Dual Destinies (Most likely)
Oh sure, bringing in Detective Gumshoe, who was Edgeworth's partner for years is just so dumb! But Maya, that little hyperactive snotball that got either kidnapped, tried for murder again and again or even was tried to get murdered herself totally has to appear in the game. Totally makes sense, Capcom.
7. Detective Gumshoe will not be in Dual Destinies (Most likely)
Oh sure, bringing in Detective Gumshoe, who was Edgeworth's partner for years is just so dumb! But Maya, that little hyperactive snotball that got either kidnapped, tried for murder again and again or even was tried to get murdered herself totally has to appear in the game. Totally makes sense, Capcom.
I didn't want either of them back originally, but if I had to pick I'd rather have Maya back than Gumshoe. I always liked Gumshoe but I always preferred Ema as a detective and through the recent games he's become a bit of a parody of himself. I'm very happy that he's not coming back and has finally ridden himself of all of the people who make his day hard (Edgeworth, Phoenix, etc.). Maybe he bought a timeshare of some sort.
As for Maya returning, I don't think they'll try her for Murder again because its been done so many times before. Maybe she just becomes involved in a case, or ends up channeling the victim or something. I think she'll have an important role but I don't think that they will retread that much.
The fact that Gumshoe isn't returning actually gives me some confidence that the game won't be too self-referential. I think it shows restraint and hopefully that means none of the other characters we've seen enough of (Von Karma, Larry, Oldbag) will be present this time. It's not that I don't like those characters, but there are plenty of other characters who've missed out on screentime.
I used to have Sam Waterston as my avatar but photobucket added a watermark and also Law & Order has been cancelled for 10 years so it's time for me to move on.
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