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And I'm pretty sure I saw a screenshot of Ichiro before but just to remind me, where is the screenshot of Ichiro stating he's the headmaster of the school?

And what does the number 18 and 100 have to do with Atsui and Shizuya, respectively?

From the Gyakuten Tsuushin site; scroll down to one of my posts. He does say that it's his school.

Chishio may be 18; his quote is essentially introducing himself, with extra umph of course. I don't quite understand his analogy of "the grating of plaster is a sign of the truth", but he does specialize in ceramic arts. Rei's quote is also introducing himself as "the man who knows nothing but 100 percent scores". Yep, a perfectionist through and through; I'd like to see how he and Franzy would get along.
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I will laugh if the 'normal main character' and 'perky assistant' roles are slightly reversed in this case (eg. perky main character and normal assistant. I can now picture Athena kind of being pumped up and excited and asking all the silly cross-examination questions, with Apollo going, "Geez, maybe you should let me take over?"
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Regarding Case 3, my guess is that it's going to be the case where the bombing takes place. With Athena going up against Blackquill, I can possibly see the bombing happening before the verdict is reached. I just can't imagine Simon Blackquill being taken seriously as the big, bad antagonist prosecutor if he loses to an 18-year old rookie.


While a good point, it wouldn't really make him look good if he got his ass kicked first and then gets 'saved' by something like that.

It'd have to be at a point where they're at a standstill or he is at an advantage.

So this is likely to be a flashback case, then?


Yes, we assume case 2 and 3 actually take place before case 1.


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And I'm pretty sure I saw a screenshot of Ichiro before but just to remind me, where is the screenshot of Ichiro stating he's the headmaster of the school?

And what does the number 18 and 100 have to do with Atsui and Shizuya, respectively?

From the Gyakuten Tsuushin site; scroll down to one of my posts. He does say that it's his school.

Chishio may be 18; his quote is essentially introducing himself, with extra umph of course. I don't quite understand his analogy of "the grating of plaster is a sign of the truth", but he does specialize in ceramic arts. Rei's quote is also introducing himself as "the man who knows nothing but 100 percent scores". Yep, a perfectionist through and through; I'd like to see how he and Franzy would get along.

So Athena is as old as them, but already gratuated and got a job? I wonder if she is treated as a "genius" character in this game or if she just finished a year earlier than the others? Are the pupils of this law school considered to be real judges/prosecutors/attorneys when they finish this school or is it just easier for them to enter university to study law?
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Technically, Kokone studied overseas in America, so it'd make sense that she'd graduate at 18. Of course, getting a job at a legendary agency soon after she graduates is kind of pushing it.

I don't know if she ever attended Themis, but she could have been part of an abroad study program... if this academy has one like that.
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Technically, Kokone studied overseas in America, so it'd make sense that she'd graduate at 18. Of course, getting a job at a legendary agency soon after she graduates is kind of pushing it.


That probably means she studied in Germany in the American version. My view on the German legal system has been forever changed by these games...

Also, she just happens to be a psychologist too. No biggie, you pick that up in just five minutes, right?

Oh that's right! If this is indeed a flashback case and the bomb goes off in the middle of the courtroom, then there's a good chance Apollo will keep his badass longcoat of doom and the incredibly impractical bandages for the rest of the game. Yaay.
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Apparently, the bar exam in this universe is applicable to high school graduates. No wonder Edgeworth appears to be a genius; everyone around him is par undergrad. It also explains why the rookie Phoenix Wright was able to defeat the DL-6 mystery in one day which had lasted 15 years otherwise.

And for some reason, Germerica really likes to show off its teenaged prosecutors. What kind of training programs do they have anyway? Why are there no other countries that can show off their teenaged attorneys?

And suddenly, the spirit mediums seem normal.
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It makes sense on some level that, over time, we'd see younger and younger lawyers. If Edgeworth was a teenage prodigy 7 years ago or whatever, he'd serve as an inspiration to the next generation of students, and eventually the schools would start to be geared toward that, at least a bit
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You know, Juniper looks a lot different as a Themis student than as the first case's defendant. I wouldn't even realize they were the same person without someone telling me.
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Btw. why are the assistants standing on the left side and not on the right side of the defense attorney anymore?
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Thane wrote:
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On another note, what's this about a mock trial? I mean, what purpose does it serve?


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Regarding Case 3, my guess is that it's going to be the case where the bombing takes place. With Athena going up against Blackquill, I can possibly see the bombing happening before the verdict is reached. I just can't imagine Simon Blackquill being taken seriously as the big, bad antagonist prosecutor if he loses to an 18-year old rookie.


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While a good point, it wouldn't really make him look good if he got his ass kicked first and then gets 'saved' by something like that.

It'd have to be at a point where they're at a standstill or he is at an advantage.

So this is likely to be a flashback case, then?


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I agree. I definitely think Simon will have the upper hand, and then the bomb threat will happen, assuming that's what the case is leading to of course. Perhaps Simon getting the best of Apollo and Athena is what helps bring Phoenix out of retirement?
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I think that they just dropped the age requirement. It is just a simple matter of actually passing the tests.
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Anyone recording the Hagitoko broadcast?
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Regarding Case 3, my guess is that it's going to be the case where the bombing takes place. With Athena going up against Blackquill, I can possibly see the bombing happening before the verdict is reached. I just can't imagine Simon Blackquill being taken seriously as the big, bad antagonist prosecutor if he loses to an 18-year old rookie.


I like the sound of that.

Spoiler: It would also explain this scene:
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Regarding Case 3, my guess is that it's going to be the case where the bombing takes place. With Athena going up against Blackquill, I can possibly see the bombing happening before the verdict is reached. I just can't imagine Simon Blackquill being taken seriously as the big, bad antagonist prosecutor if he loses to an 18-year old rookie.


I like the sound of that.

Spoiler: It would also explain this scene:
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Indeed. With what we know now it makes little sense for her to go there and cry after her friend has been saved by Phoenix.
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TheIdioteque wrote:
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Regarding Case 3, my guess is that it's going to be the case where the bombing takes place. With Athena going up against Blackquill, I can possibly see the bombing happening before the verdict is reached. I just can't imagine Simon Blackquill being taken seriously as the big, bad antagonist prosecutor if he loses to an 18-year old rookie.


Hmmm... Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but here are some of my thoughts.

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In the English version, it simply says Apollo was AT the bench at the time of the explosion. Seeing as he is Athena's partner in Case 3, the bombing occurring in Case 3 is a possibility.

And here's a photo I took just now. (Sorry it's so massive. I tried reducing the size, but I guess it's still big...)
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In the Japanese version though, Phoenix says that the bomb goes off during one of Apollo's own trials. He specifically says "during Apollo's trial". In the Japanese version, it sounds more like it happens during a trial in which Apollo is defending.

I guess even as a partner, it could be considered his trial... But just the way the conversation in the lobby for Case 1 goes, as far as everyone's attitudes are concerned, it seems more like it was Apollo's case.

Okay, now this really might be me thinking too much, but during the first Mood Matrix, Junie is wearing her casual clothes as opposed to her school uniform. Perhaps she changes her outfit during Case 3, but this seems weird too.


I don't believe Case 3 to be the case, but if I'm wrong, it will be a pleasant surprise anyways. :-)
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I think that they just dropped the age requirement. It is just a simple matter of actually passing the tests.


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Regarding Case 3, my guess is that it's going to be the case where the bombing takes place. With Athena going up against Blackquill, I can possibly see the bombing happening before the verdict is reached. I just can't imagine Simon Blackquill being taken seriously as the big, bad antagonist prosecutor if he loses to an 18-year old rookie.


Hmmm... Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but here are some of my thoughts.

Spoiler:
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In the English version, it simply says Apollo was AT the bench at the time of the explosion. Seeing as he is Athena's partner in Case 3, the bombing occurring in Case 3 is a possibility.

And here's a photo I took just now. (Sorry it's so massive. I tried reducing the size, but I guess it's still big...)
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In the Japanese version though, Phoenix says that the bomb goes off during one of Apollo's own trials. He specifically says "during Apollo's trial". In the Japanese version, it sounds more like it happens during a trial in which Apollo is defending.

I guess even as a partner, it could be considered his trial... But just the way the conversation in the lobby for Case 1 goes, as far as everyone's attitudes are concerned, it seems more like it was Apollo's case.

Okay, now this really might be me thinking too much, but during the first Mood Matrix, Junie is wearing her casual clothes as opposed to her school uniform. Perhaps she changes her outfit during Case 3, but this seems weird too.


I don't believe Case 3 to be the case, but if I'm wrong, it will be a pleasant surprise anyways. :-)


There are indeed some inconsistencies. Besides the one you noted, we also have to ask why a bomb should have been a piece of evidence during the case 3 trial?
Also the way Junie tells you about the incident of the bombing doesn't really imply she was also the defendant of the trial where the bomb blew up.
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Lusankya wrote:
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Regarding Case 3, my guess is that it's going to be the case where the bombing takes place. With Athena going up against Blackquill, I can possibly see the bombing happening before the verdict is reached. I just can't imagine Simon Blackquill being taken seriously as the big, bad antagonist prosecutor if he loses to an 18-year old rookie.


Hmmm... Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but here are some of my thoughts.

Spoiler:
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In the English version, it simply says Apollo was AT the bench at the time of the explosion. Seeing as he is Athena's partner in Case 3, the bombing occurring in Case 3 is a possibility.

And here's a photo I took just now. (Sorry it's so massive. I tried reducing the size, but I guess it's still big...)
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In the Japanese version though, Phoenix says that the bomb goes off during one of Apollo's own trials. He specifically says "during Apollo's trial". In the Japanese version, it sounds more like it happens during a trial in which Apollo is defending.

I guess even as a partner, it could be considered his trial... But just the way the conversation in the lobby for Case 1 goes, as far as everyone's attitudes are concerned, it seems more like it was Apollo's case.

Okay, now this really might be me thinking too much, but during the first Mood Matrix, Junie is wearing her casual clothes as opposed to her school uniform. Perhaps she changes her outfit during Case 3, but this seems weird too.


I don't believe Case 3 to be the case, but if I'm wrong, it will be a pleasant surprise anyways. :-)


There are indeed some inconsistencies. Besides the one you noted, we also have to ask why a bomb should have been a piece of evidence during the case 3 trial?
Also the way Junie tells you about the incident of the bombing doesn't really imply she was also the defendant of the trial where the bomb blew up.


Wouldn't it be a bigger inconsistency if Apollo's eye grew back?

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I'm joking of course, he probably didn't lose an eye. God I'm boring...

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Wouldn't it be a bigger inconsistency if Apollo's eye grew back?



It's not about that. It's quite clear that case 3 takes place before case 1, but I don't think the case 3 trial is the trial where the bombing takes place which is the subject of the case 1 trial.

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Anyone recording the Hagitoko broadcast?

Probably Bolt will do it again.
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Anyone recording the Hagitoko broadcast?

Probably Bolt will do it again.
Here is the link to the niconico page, maybe you want to timeshift it.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv143555266


So was anything new shown during the show?
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Lusankya wrote:
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Anyone recording the Hagitoko broadcast?

Probably Bolt will do it again.
Here is the link to the niconico page, maybe you want to timeshift it.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv143555266


So was anything new shown during the show?


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Mostly case 2 stuff, Fullbright's theme and animations, DLC costumes in action.
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Two other small notes (will upload later, just going off hoso_boso's summary):

Spoiler: Case 2 minor spoiler(?)
Case 2 is Apollo and Athena's first meeting.


They'll announce further DLC closer to the release date (so maybe in Famitsu? Maybe the day or two before release?)
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Two other small notes (will upload later, just going off hoso_boso's summary):

Spoiler: Case 2 minor spoiler(?)
Case 2 is Apollo and Athena's first meeting.


They'll announce further DLC closer to the release date (so maybe in Famitsu? Maybe the day or two before release?)


so were getting DLC here in NA?
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so were getting DLC here in NA?


We don't know yet. I would assume yes though.

Anyway, if you want to watch the Hagitoko broadcast, you can catch it here, but it's very low quality at the moment (you can't even read some of the text). Still, if you just want to see some animations and hear the music, it might work for you. Hoping to get a better quality version up soon.
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so were getting DLC here in NA?


We don't know yet. I would assume yes though.

Anyway, if you want to watch the Hagitoko broadcast, you can catch it here, but it's very low quality at the moment (you can't even read some of the text). Still, if you just want to see some animations and hear the music, it might work for you. Hoping to get a better quality version up soon.


hopefully we do but if we only only get a digital release how would they go about giving us the DLC's if there is no preorder system on eshop? and thanks ill watch it right now
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Inspector Cabanela wrote:
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so were getting DLC here in NA?


We don't know yet. I would assume yes though.

Anyway, if you want to watch the Hagitoko broadcast, you can catch it here, but it's very low quality at the moment (you can't even read some of the text). Still, if you just want to see some animations and hear the music, it might work for you. Hoping to get a better quality version up soon.


hopefully we do but if we only only get a digital release how would they go about giving us the DLC's if there is no preorder system on eshop? and thanks ill watch it right now


The Japanese version has the DLC for free for the first month. Similar things happened with certain DLC for NSMB2 and Fire Emblem.
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The Japanese version has the DLC for free for the first month. Similar things happened with certain DLC for NSMB2 and Fire Emblem.


doesnt answer if NA is gonna get a DLC lol
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The Japanese version has the DLC for free for the first month. Similar things happened with certain DLC for NSMB2 and Fire Emblem.


doesnt answer if NA is gonna get a DLC lol


We don't know yet.

Here's my guess: I don't think we're going to get the costume DLC, as that does seem to be a pre-order/more of a not-important kind of thing. I bet if new cases or chapters are released in Japan that we will get those though.
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The Japanese version has the DLC for free for the first month. Similar things happened with certain DLC for NSMB2 and Fire Emblem.


doesnt answer if NA is gonna get a DLC lol


We don't know yet.

Here's my guess: I don't think we're going to get the costume DLC, as that does seem to be a pre-order/more of a not-important kind of thing. I bet if new cases or chapters are released in Japan that we will get those though.


if that is the case i rather just want a dlc for a new case or chapter, also would the dlc codes for the costume work if you brought it from someone in japan?
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if that is the case i rather just want a dlc for a new case or chapter, also would the dlc codes for the costume work if you brought it from someone in japan?


I doubt the codes would work, as its probably turned off in regions where it won't be released.

Frankly, the only costume I even like is Classic Phoenix and I like his new, more mature look now anyway. So I don't really care if we get this or not.

But CASES or STORY DLC? That I want!
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if that is the case i rather just want a dlc for a new case or chapter, also would the dlc codes for the costume work if you brought it from someone in japan?


I doubt the codes would work, as its probably turned off in regions where it won't be released.

Frankly, the only costume I even like is Classic Phoenix and I like his new, more mature look now anyway. So I don't really care if we get this or not.

But CASES or STORY DLC? That I want!


how would they region lock the codes? and the only costume i like is Apollo's outfit only one i really want.
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Considering they said the DLC is free for a month, I don't think there are any codes. You just get it from the in-game add-on menu (or whatever) for free during that time. That'll probably happen in the US release as well if they include the DLC.

So you'd have to have the JP game on a JP 3DS to get the DLC (probably won't care about your actual location, but you can get around that if it does). There wouldn't be any way to do the same for the US version because the game would be hard-coded for the region's DLC content.
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Considering they said the DLC is free for a month, I don't think there are any codes. You just get it from the in-game add-on menu (or whatever) for free during that time. That'll probably happen in the US release as well if they include the DLC.

So you'd have to have the JP game on a JP 3DS to get the DLC (probably won't care about your actual location, but you can get around that if it does). There wouldn't be any way to do the same for the US version because the game would be hard-coded for the region's DLC content.


i like the idea if they did do it that way with making the DLC's free for a month in NA as well by using the in game add on menu
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How to region lock X:
  1. Attach a region to X
  2. Check the current region of X on use
  3. Throw a hissy fit if they don't match


Why not Y :keiko:
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if that is the case i rather just want a dlc for a new case or chapter, also would the dlc codes for the costume work if you brought it from someone in japan?


I doubt the codes would work, as its probably turned off in regions where it won't be released.

Frankly, the only costume I even like is Classic Phoenix and I like his new, more mature look now anyway. So I don't really care if we get this or not.

But CASES or STORY DLC? That I want!

Oh no worries. I'm sure GS6 when it comes out will satisfy those DLCs... especially how evil Mr. Eshiro was to not answer if this game ends on a cliffhanger or not. I'm used to games in a series ending on cliffhangers of some sort, but every time it happens, I throw a hissy fit... and if its sequel involves region lock, I throw other stuff around.

...kinda like now.

Here's to DD coming in an actual Fall month and not December.
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
Oh no worries. I'm sure GS6 when it comes out will satisfy those DLCs... especially how evil Mr. Eshiro was to not answer if this game ends on a cliffhanger or not. I'm used to games in a series ending on cliffhangers of some sort, but every time it happens, I throw a hissy fit... and if its sequel involves region lock, I throw other stuff around.

...kinda like now.

Here's to DD coming in an actual Fall month and not December.


Yeah I remember that quote and it kind of bothered me. The games have never ended with cliffhangers and I don't think they should start now. The games' ends have always wrapped enough up so that they could almost serve as possible series finales.

What I WOULD like is for the DLC to be less "character arc" focused but instead be more of a "case centric" case, more like something you'd see on Law and Order. Where like Athena, Phoenix, and Apollo solve a murder mystery but it has no relation to any of their backgrounds or characters. Just a case. That way if people later on don't get a chance to get DLC they can go on to the next game without any issues.

And yeah DD better be coming out September/October. I know November and December are technically fall but no one really thinks of them like that. And usually games released in that time are called "holiday". Like Zelda: A Link Between Worlds has a November release which was first announced as Holiday 2013.
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What I WOULD like is for the DLC to be less "character arc" focused but instead be more of a "case centric" case, more like something you'd see on Law and Order. Where like Athena, Phoenix, and Apollo solve a murder mystery but it has no relation to any of their backgrounds or characters. Just a case. That way if people later on don't get a chance to get DLC they can go on to the next game without any issues.

And yeah DD better be coming out September/October. I know November and December are technically fall but no one really thinks of them like that. And usually games released in that time are called "holiday". Like Zelda: A Link Between Worlds has a November release which was first announced as Holiday 2013.


A season doesn't consist of four months. Usually fall just means September, October and November, although by the astronomocial definition it's from 21st/22nd September to 20th/21st December.
A September release date would be great, an October release date is what I expect, and a November release date would be a little bit disappointing (but still much earlier than older titles).

Regarding DLCs I guess there is not much else besides costumes, music tracks and bonus cases. There could be free of charge bonus cases that just consists of some funny stuff and some cameos and then "case centric" cases as you described them that will cost something.
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Lusankya wrote:
ADA McCoy wrote:
What I WOULD like is for the DLC to be less "character arc" focused but instead be more of a "case centric" case, more like something you'd see on Law and Order. Where like Athena, Phoenix, and Apollo solve a murder mystery but it has no relation to any of their backgrounds or characters. Just a case. That way if people later on don't get a chance to get DLC they can go on to the next game without any issues.

And yeah DD better be coming out September/October. I know November and December are technically fall but no one really thinks of them like that. And usually games released in that time are called "holiday". Like Zelda: A Link Between Worlds has a November release which was first announced as Holiday 2013.


A season doesn't consist of four months. Usually fall just means September, October and November, although by the astronomocial definition it's from 21st/22nd September to 20th/21st December.
A September release date would be great, an October release date is what I expect, and a November release date would be a little bit disappointing (but still much earlier than older titles).

Regarding DLCs I guess there is not much else besides costumes, music tracks and bonus cases. There could be free of charge bonus cases that just consists of some funny stuff and some cameos and then "case centric" cases as you described them that will cost something.


I was going by the astronomical definition.

But I would prefer it in September or October.
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