Random conversations about Games

Shao-Mae · Post by **Shao-Mae** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:30 pm

Sjibbey wrote:Sooooo people... , have you heard about the new design of Sonic?
I just can't get a grip on this character anymore.

I think people are overeacting. Of course if they want to appeal a younger audience they had to altered the design. They wanted to put emphasis on certain characteristics, that's why Sonic have new longers legs, plus he look a bit older. As for knuckles, well a guy with skinny arms and big knuckles is weird if you don't assume that he have special gauntlet or something. We'll get use to this in a few months.

Pierre · Post by **Pierre** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:52 am

Shao-Mae wrote:
Sjibbey wrote:Sooooo people... , have you heard about the new design of Sonic?
I just can't get a grip on this character anymore.
I think people are overeacting. Of course if they want to appeal a younger audience they had to altered the design. They wanted to put emphasis on certain characteristics, that's why Sonic have new longers legs, plus he look a bit older. As for knuckles, well a guy with skinny arms and big knuckles is weird if you don't assume that he have special gauntlet or something. We'll get use to this in a few months.

I concur, leg proportions have never been something that the Sonic franchise has ever done correctly, just look at Eggman in all his renditions. The important proportions are correct, Sonic is taller than Amy, Amy is taller than tails so everything looks right.

Then knuckles is just BEEFED but hell I don't mind. I'm just bloody glad Knuckles is going to be relevant again in a Sonic game.

Sjibbey · Post by **Sjibbey** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:04 pm

Pierre wrote:
Shao-Mae wrote:
Sjibbey wrote:Sooooo people... , have you heard about the new design of Sonic?
I just can't get a grip on this character anymore.
I think people are overeacting. Of course if they want to appeal a younger audience they had to altered the design. They wanted to put emphasis on certain characteristics, that's why Sonic have new longers legs, plus he look a bit older. As for knuckles, well a guy with skinny arms and big knuckles is weird if you don't assume that he have special gauntlet or something. We'll get use to this in a few months.
I concur, leg proportions have never been something that the Sonic franchise has ever done correctly, just look at Eggman in all his renditions. The important proportions are correct, Sonic is taller than Amy, Amy is taller than tails so everything looks right.

Then knuckles is just BEEFED but hell I don't mind. I'm just bloody glad Knuckles is going to be relevant again in a Sonic game.

I don't really know why the new design bothers me, but I think it's the scarf and bandages thing. It just doesn't quite fit in my opinion. Not to mention I don't like the look in Sonic's eyes, it seems derpy for some reason.
It's not that I can't handle change or anything and I imagine Sega did tons of research to come to this conclusion, but I'm gonna set my foot down and say "NO" to this design.
If the gameplay of the game is good than off course all will be forgiven, but that hasn't happened since Sonic Generations.

Pierre · Post by **Pierre** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:09 pm

Sonic Generations wasn't that long ago...and Sonic Colours was pretty rad. I've been wanting to play Lost World but don't have it yet.

Sjibbey · Post by **Sjibbey** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:22 pm

Pierre wrote: Sonic Generations wasn't that long ago...and Sonic Colours was pretty rad. I've been wanting to play Lost World but don't have it yet.

That's very true, but generations was taking existing stages and remaking them, which was done very nicely, but they didn't fare too well with the newer Sonic games build from scratch.
Sonic 06
Shadow the Hedgehog
Secret rings
Unleashed
Black Night
Sonic for me is about 2 things: speed and control. This was done superb in generations and Sonic Adventure 2 in my opinion, but they seem to mess up the format more than getting it right.

Pierre · Post by **Pierre** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:27 pm

Sjibbey wrote:
Pierre wrote: Sonic Generations wasn't that long ago...and Sonic Colours was pretty rad. I've been wanting to play Lost World but don't have it yet.
That's very true, but generations was taking existing stages and remaking them, which was done very nicely, but they didn't fare too well with the newer Sonic games build from scratch.
Sonic 06
Shadow the Hedgehog
Secret rings
Unleashed
Black Night
Sonic for me is about 2 things: speed and control. This was done superb in generations and Sonic Adventure 2 in my opinion, but they seem to mess up the format more than getting it right.

Hmm Sonic Unleashed was fine, people mock the Werehog stuff but the 'speed' in the day sections was pretty excellent.

Sjibbey · Post by **Sjibbey** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:35 pm

Pierre wrote:
Sjibbey wrote:
Pierre wrote: Sonic Generations wasn't that long ago...and Sonic Colours was pretty rad. I've been wanting to play Lost World but don't have it yet.
That's very true, but generations was taking existing stages and remaking them, which was done very nicely, but they didn't fare too well with the newer Sonic games build from scratch.
Sonic 06
Shadow the Hedgehog
Secret rings
Unleashed
Black Night
Sonic for me is about 2 things: speed and control. This was done superb in generations and Sonic Adventure 2 in my opinion, but they seem to mess up the format more than getting it right.
Hmm Sonic Unleashed was fine, people mock the Werehog stuff but the 'speed' in the day sections was pretty excellent.

True, but still means half the game is tedious button mashing while using a combo or special attack now and then to mix it up a little (you could combo a shoryuken into a primary lotus, so I gotta give credit there). Maybe I'm to harsh on unleashed. I remember doing all the hotdog vendor missions, which meant completing each stage perfectly 5 times, so maybe I turned bitter after enduring those trials.

Pierre · Post by **Pierre** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:49 pm

I think modern gaming is hard on anything from 'way back when' so the likes of Nintendo and Sega and older franchises like Final Fantasy and Metal Gear seem to get a real rough time in any gaming press these days. Sonic included so I always treat such things with grains of salt, I view Seven Rings as sort of a 'beta' for their later on games as Unleashed was basically the perfected version of "Run into the screen really fast" Sonic games.

Black Knight I found real entertaining, but the motion controls were inaccurate and the swordplay broke up the speed despite their design intentions hoping it wouldn't.

If they wanted to make a combat heavy game they just need to give Knuckles a shot. I heard Unleashed's 'Werehog' stages were meant to be intended for Knuckles originally but a design choice at one point meant that the Werehog was the route they chose.

CatMuto · Post by **CatMuto** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:31 pm

Sjibbey wrote:I don't really know why the new design bothers me, but I think it's the scarf and bandages thing..

Here you go.

C-A

Church Of Sumire · Post by **Church Of Sumire** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:39 pm

CatMuto wrote:
Sjibbey wrote:I don't really know why the new design bothers me, but I think it's the scarf and bandages thing..
Here you go.

C-A

I knew it! that damn Oprah winfry is at it again!

Sjibbey · Post by **Sjibbey** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:10 pm

It all makes sense now!

Klonoahedgehog · Post by **Klonoahedgehog** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:10 pm

Imma go finish my pre order of Conception 2.

Franzise Deauxnim · Post by **Franzise Deauxnim** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:02 am

General Luigi wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:Yeah, no Lissa x Maribelle is total bs.
I was referring to how Cordelia's support conversations are not affected by her marital status. Even if married, she will still talk about "the married man [she's] fallen for" in her supports with Henry.

Oh...well...yes, there's that, too.

I guess it was kind of a mistake to make unrequited love a major part of someone's character in a game that encourages you to pair your units up mostly any way you want, huh?

Post by **Bad Player** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:22 pm

I just want to complain in advance about the sudden influx of people that are going to appear that are going to be saying things like "Makoto", "Hina", and "Taka".

IT'S NAEGI, AOI, AND ISHI YOU MONSTERS ;_;

CatMuto · Post by **CatMuto** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:40 pm

Bad Player wrote:I just want to complain in advance about the sudden influx of people that are going to appear that are going to be saying things like "Makoto", "Hina", and "Taka".

IT'S NAEGI, AOI, AND ISHI YOU MONSTERS ;_;

I never did quite understand the point of changing a character's Japanese name for a localized game into another Japanese name.

I mean... what? People cannot pronounciate Ishi but can say Taka? Or Makoto instead of Naegi?

C-A

Post by **Bad Player** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:14 pm

It could be because Westerners are used to using people's first names instead of last names, but... you'd think in that case, they would just change the order of the characters' names, rather than changing the name they're usually referred to by.

CatMuto · Post by **CatMuto** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:45 pm

Mh... then again, having characters refer to someone by their first name in the localized version when they use the last name usually, can really screw up big moments. Which are lost on westerners, not just cause we usually refer to someone by their first name but because... well, it's no big deal to call someone suddenly by their first name because they never called someone by their last name to begin with.

I mean, I can understand changing, like, in Persona 4 where Konishi referred to Yosuke as "Hana-chan" I can see why people may think it's weird for a guy to be called -chan, which they think is usually only used on girls. But... well, even weirder in Persona 4, because they do use -san, -kun, -chan and -sempai. But with first names...

C-A

Franzise Deauxnim · Post by **Franzise Deauxnim** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:06 pm

It could be worse. Ever play the localized version of Sakura Wars 5? Nobody ever calls Shinjiro Taiga (the main character) Taiga-kun or even (to my recollection) Shinjiro. It's always "Shin" or "Shiny" or "Shinster". ughh

Post by **Bad Player** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:27 pm

Franzise Deauxnim wrote:It could be worse. Ever play the localized version of Sakura Wars 5? Nobody ever calls Shinjiro Taiga (the main character) Taiga-kun or even (to my recollection) Shinjiro. It's always "Shin" or "Shiny" or "Shinster". ughh

...Oh my god. They should make an Evangelion dub where everyone calls Shinji "Shinster"

Church Of Sumire · Post by **Church Of Sumire** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:02 pm

Awesome they just released Payday2 for free for playstation plus members

CatMuto · Post by **CatMuto** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:13 pm

Son of a...! In Harvest Moon DS Cute, I re-did the marriage and 3 season pregnancy four times now and I still ended up with a boy! I'm playing the Girl Version of the game because I want a goddamn daughter! Screw this! I'm making a new file! Or better yet, I play the Boy Version! Okay, I can't have a daughter there, but at least I don't have to WASTE 3 Seasons just to see what I get!

C-A

Church Of Sumire · Post by **Church Of Sumire** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:04 pm

Omg im so proud of myself! I finally went through the entire water temple in OoT without using internet,game faqs, or a walkthrough

Lord Doitsu · Post by **Lord Doitsu** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:08 pm

Fool Bright wrote:Omg im so proud of myself! I finally went through the entire water temple in OoT without using internet,game faqs, or a walkthrough

Beat Link to the Past without help ether. I know how it feels, partner.

Church Of Sumire · Post by **Church Of Sumire** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:11 pm

Blood_fox5 wrote:
Fool Bright wrote:Omg im so proud of myself! I finally went through the entire water temple in OoT without using internet,game faqs, or a walkthrough
Beat Link to the Past without help ether. I know how it feels, partner.

I only used a walkthrough once i believe for the Skull woods.

Lord Doitsu · Post by **Lord Doitsu** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:39 pm

Fool Bright wrote:
Blood_fox5 wrote:
Fool Bright wrote:Omg im so proud of myself! I finally went through the entire water temple in OoT without using internet,game faqs, or a walkthrough
Beat Link to the Past without help ether. I know how it feels, partner.
I only used a walkthrough once i believe for the Skull woods.

I reambering it being pretty hard. I am now playing A Link Between Worlds, and I think the difficulty has gone down slightly because I know where most everything is.

Church Of Sumire · Post by **Church Of Sumire** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:41 pm

Blood_fox5 wrote:I reambering it being pretty hard. I am now playing A Link Between Worlds, and I think the difficulty has gone down slightly because I know where most everything is.

I only had trouble with that dungeon because of what exit i needed to take to go to certain parts from outside the woods to other parts of the dungeon. I agree that they did lower the difficulty of that dungeon in LBW.

CatMuto · Post by **CatMuto** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:58 pm

So I got my Lightning Returns for the 360 and have the Japanese Audio going on and I have to say... whoever took over the translation from the Japanese really screwed it up! The translation is very far from what is actually being said.

I can't blame people for saying the XIII games have weird lines, because the translation IS... medicore. Semi-decent at best. It gives us the idea, but the actual meaning is completely lost...

C-A

Shao-Mae · Post by **Shao-Mae** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:40 am

Do anybody knows a website where they sell pokémon platinum for cheap. I searched everywhere and I find things like 40$ without the horrible shipping of 15$. Heck the japanese version is cheaper than the english one!

Post by **Bad Player** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:31 pm

Shao-Mae wrote:Do anybody knows a website where they sell pokémon platinum for cheap. I searched everywhere and I find things like 40$ without the horrible shipping of 15$. Heck the japanese version is cheaper than the english one!

Amazon seems to have it for about $40, but then with shipping much cheaper than $15.

It also looks like you might be able to get it on ebay for about $30.

Klonoahedgehog · Post by **Klonoahedgehog** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:03 pm

Shao-Mae wrote:Do anybody knows a website where they sell pokémon platinum for cheap. I searched everywhere and I find things like 40$ without the horrible shipping of 15$. Heck the japanese version is cheaper than the english one!

I think Gamestop has it for 20 bucks.

Shao-Mae · Post by **Shao-Mae** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:09 am

Nah Gamestop do have it at 40 km from my home at 35$ used, without taxes. The problem I have with ebay is the shipping fees I have because I live in Canada. Anyway I checked the little ad and found someone in my region, who didn't needed me to come over. 20$ really nice of her.

On another note I just find the Twitch pokemon play very hilarious.

kwando1313 · Post by **kwando1313** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:11 am

Yes!

Twitch plays Pokemon /is/ absolutely hilarious. I can't believe that they managed to get 4 badges, you know?

But... We all know they're screwed when they have to do the Safari Zone. xP

Sjibbey · Post by **Sjibbey** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:05 pm

kwando1313 wrote:Yes!

Twitch plays Pokemon /is/ absolutely hilarious. I can't believe that they managed to get 4 badges, you know?

But... We all know they're screwed when they have to do the Safari Zone. xP

Unless there is a moment where less than 100 players are playing the'll never make it. I love the chaos it produces though.

Church Of Sumire · Post by **Church Of Sumire** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:11 pm

OMG I really Hope J-stars Victory Vs comes out in NA D:. Just read the news that there gonna be added Ace into the one piece roster and Hiei into the Yuyu Hakusho roster! So excited!

Hylian100 · Post by **Hylian100** » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:10 pm

So, anyone else downloaded Steel Diver: Sub Wars on 3DS? The free version's what I'm playing, rather fun though I don't like that there are only 2 submarines available in it. And the nine pound price tag for the full version's a bit steep to justify getting some slightly better submarines.

Sjibbey · Post by **Sjibbey** » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:53 pm

Hylian100 wrote:So, anyone else downloaded Steel Diver: Sub Wars on 3DS? The free version's what I'm playing, rather fun though I don't like that there are only 2 submarines available in it. And the nine pound price tag for the full version's a bit steep to justify getting some slightly better submarines.

Isn't that one of the launch titles for the 3DS? I haven't played it myself, but I've seen plenty reviews that mention the gameplay becomes repetitive and the average score is around 5-6 out of 10, so be wary if you're deciding if you should buy it or not.

Hylian100 · Post by **Hylian100** » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:01 pm

Sjibbey wrote:
Hylian100 wrote:So, anyone else downloaded Steel Diver: Sub Wars on 3DS? The free version's what I'm playing, rather fun though I don't like that there are only 2 submarines available in it. And the nine pound price tag for the full version's a bit steep to justify getting some slightly better submarines.
Isn't that one of the launch titles for the 3DS? I haven't played it myself, but I've seen plenty reviews that mention the gameplay becomes repetitive and the average score is around 5-6 out of 10, so be wary if you're deciding if you should buy it or not.

No, it's the sequel to one of the launch titles for the 3DS that came out of nowhere.

Blak The Great · Post by **Blak The Great** » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:14 pm

Sjibbey wrote:
kwando1313 wrote:Yes!

Twitch plays Pokemon /is/ absolutely hilarious. I can't believe that they managed to get 4 badges, you know?

But... We all know they're screwed when they have to do the Safari Zone. xP
Unless there is a moment where less than 100 players are playing the'll never make it. I love the chaos it produces though.

Consult the Helix Fossil and see if you truly love the chaos.

kwando1313 · Post by **kwando1313** » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:31 pm

Blak The Great wrote:
Sjibbey wrote:
kwando1313 wrote:Yes!

Twitch plays Pokemon /is/ absolutely hilarious. I can't believe that they managed to get 4 badges, you know?

But... We all know they're screwed when they have to do the Safari Zone. xP
Unless there is a moment where less than 100 players are playing the'll never make it. I love the chaos it produces though.
Consult the Helix Fossil and see if you truly love the chaos.

WE MUST CONSULT THE GREAT HELIX FOSSIL.

Church Of Sumire · Post by **Church Of Sumire** » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:34 pm

Completely paid off my pre-order of SouthPark: The Stick of Truth. Can't wait till March 4 when it is released.