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Pierre wrote:
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Is Marie a good character? I ain't played the Golden to know why she's significant or what she adds.
Frankly? She is filler material in Golden. She doesn't really add much to the actual story of P4.
She's just there to give us an Aeon Arcana Link.
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Sorry Cat but when 90% of your reviews and opinions are negative I think I'll wait for someone else's opinion XD
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So, like, yeah... she's filler. And she's a damn Mary Sue.
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So, like, yeah... she's filler. And she's a damn Mary Sue.
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...and? Your point being?
Tch. It's almost like you're trying to convince me that she's a bad character.
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Though I dunno if any of the things you said made her a Sue as such.
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Who's that with the lighter hair?
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Kanami Mashita, she was Rise's "replacement" after Rise quit Show Business (Everyone in Persona 4 says Show Biz, how bizarre...)
More commonly known as Kanamin.
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Yes she's a sterotypical tsundere, but I like her nonetheless; her niavete and short nature resulted in some cute and laugh-out-loud scenes, particularly where certain pieces of poetry are involved I found I legitimately cared for her, and enjoyed her addition to the Persona 4 universe. That said, Naoto is still my favorite female in the game, but she comes a close second I realize though that aside from the end twist she didn't contribute much to the story, and people are quite divisive about her as a character; I can understand if people disagree with me about her 
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A gif for you.
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A gif for you.
I approve
Rise may not be my favorite P4 heroine, but she is definitely a cutie-pie; Yosuke's words, not mine. 
Aren't gifs swell?
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A gif for you.
I approve
Rise may not be my favorite P4 heroine, but she is definitely a cutie-pie; Yosuke's words, not mine. Aren't gifs swell?
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Goddammit, I loved her episode! Especially when Narukami realized it didn't record it! Dammit!
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That was the best.
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Oh, Marie...
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Goddammit, I loved her episode! Especially when Narukami realized it didn't record it! Dammit!
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That was the best.
I dunno, I also loved Kanji's episode. You know, the girls slipping on the... oil-water, whatever.
"Do you have a video camera!?"
"...Shoot, I don't!"
And Yosuke and Narukami's ass getting pinched. It was just a hilarious episode.
Also, Hii'mdaisy's Comicstrip is totally canon in Golden!
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Goddammit, I loved her episode! Especially when Narukami realized it didn't record it! Dammit!
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That was the best.
I dunno, I also loved Kanji's episode. You know, the girls slipping on the... oil-water, whatever.
"Do you have a video camera!?"
"...Shoot, I don't!"
And Yosuke and Narukami's ass getting pinched. It was just a hilarious episode.
Also, Hii'mdaisy's Comicstrip is totally canon in Golden!
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Speaking of which, I'm rewatching the anime. 3 episodes a night.
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Speaking of which, I'm rewatching the anime. 3 episodes a night.
Darn it, I'm going to have to rewatch it myself too after all this discussion
Narukami absolutely rocks my socks off with his epicness in the anime, and I love seeing all my favorite characters from the game in anime form; it's all just so wonderful The only thing that it's missing is Marie...
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Then again, the anime has... what'sherface. That stupid bluehaired girl that delivers for Aiya. Apparently she's super popular...
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Oh how I dislike tsunderes...
Then again, the anime has... what'sherface. That stupid bluehaired girl that delivers for Aiya. Apparently she's super popular...
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Hmmmm.... Maybe the reason I don't mind Tsunderes as much is because I haven't watched enough anime for it to be overdone?
I dunno; in any case, even though she's a fave of mine, I can understand why you don't like her; from what I hear, it's an extremely overdone anime character trait And all that being said, I didn't care for Aiya either; I enjoyed her as she was at the heart of some funny moments, but otherwise was unworthy of note; I neither like or dislike her as a result
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Oh how I dislike tsunderes...
Then again, the anime has... what'sherface. That stupid bluehaired girl that delivers for Aiya. Apparently she's super popular...
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I do believe the Aiya owner mentions her in Golden, but it's always along the lines of "you just missed her, she went to make a delivery" sort of thing every time.
I don't understand her popularity either. Maybe it's because she's supposed to be some kind of humorous deadpan, emotionless, character?
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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As for Aika, eh, she was... Eh. Kind of a running gag, but I didn't find it very funny. I laughed more at the Persona 4 comicstrips jokes that I know by heart now than Aika's scenes. I dunno, maybe people like deadpan-saying-funny-things characters that appear at the worst of times... it's not my cup of a joke.
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I don't hate tsundere characters because they are overdone, although they are, but because of that character trait. A tsundere has a tiny thing and instantly starts yelling or hitting someone. "You walked into my room without my permission? I WILL RIP YOUR HEAD OFF!!" Whenever a tsundere reacts to something with yelling I just want to yell back, "Goddammit, calm the fuck down! It's not that big of a deal!" cause they explode at the tiniest of things.
As for Aika, eh, she was... Eh. Kind of a running gag, but I didn't find it very funny. I laughed more at the Persona 4 comicstrips jokes that I know by heart now than Aika's scenes. I dunno, maybe people like deadpan-saying-funny-things characters that appear at the worst of times... it's not my cup of a joke.
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As for Aika, eh, she was... Eh. Kind of a running gag, but I didn't find it very funny. I laughed more at the Persona 4 comicstrips jokes that I know by heart now than Aika's scenes. I dunno, maybe people like deadpan-saying-funny-things characters that appear at the worst of times... it's not my cup of a joke.
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That's fair
In real life, tsundere characters would, generally speaking, probably annoy or frusturate me to death: people who overreact and rage because of small, stupid stuff are hard to get along with, and are usually more then a little unstable. If Marie was a real person, I'm pretty sure I would stop hanging out with her pretty quickly and likely REVERSE our social link altogether; she's not exactly a ball of sunshine and rainbows And yet somehow, I don't mind her and other tsundere characters in video games/anime as much; I don't know why Perhaps it's for the same reason I like Sherlock from the BBC show; he's HORRIBLE, but he's charismatic and interesting, and thus it's more fun to watch him then it would be to live with him Nah, I think it has more to do with the fact not all running gags are created equal, and even the better ones DO get old eventually; I found I laughed a bit the first few times in Aika's case, but not much afterwards. It was one of those jokes that DID get old fast
Oh, but all that being said, I HAVE seen instances where there are more 'normal', less stereotypically tsundere characters that ARE easy to like
Have you ever watched the anime Steins; Gate? One of the main characters- Makise Kurisu is her name- is definitely tsundere, but she's a lot more complex then the stereotypical tsundere, and feels more normal, real and overall likeable then what's normally seen within this mold of character, at least to me
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Nope, never watched that.
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Well, for what it's worth, it's a brilliant anime; probably the best I've ever seen
Here's a brief plot summary copied from MyAnimeList:'Steins;Gate is set in the summer of 2010, approximately one year after the events that took place in Chaos;Head, in Akihabara.
Steins;Gate is about a group of friends who have customized their microwave into a device that can send text messages to the past. As they perform different experiments, an organization named SERN, who has been doing their own research on time travel, tracks them down and now the characters have to find a way to avoid being captured by them.
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/anime/9253/Stein ... Fo5mOc.99'
The main character's a self-proclaimed 'mad-scientist', the time-travel concept is intelligently explained and incorporated, and the twists and turns in the anime make it one intellectually and emotionally engaging show. It has a slow start, but if you have the patience and the willingness to give it a shot, I'd wholeheartedly reccomend it, for what my opinion's worth.
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ANYHOO... I'm getting off topic here, so back to Persona
I know you don't like Marie much, but what were some of your favourite characters in Persona 3/4?
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CatMuto wrote:
Oh how I dislike tsunderes...
Then again, the anime has... what'sherface. That stupid bluehaired girl that delivers for Aiya. Apparently she's super popular...
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Then again, the anime has... what'sherface. That stupid bluehaired girl that delivers for Aiya. Apparently she's super popular...
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Stupid? I dunno, I like her. She shows up like...everywhere to deliver food/ice/etc. She's great.
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Oh how I dislike tsunderes...
Then again, the anime has... what'sherface. That stupid bluehaired girl that delivers for Aiya. Apparently she's super popular...
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Stupid? I dunno, I like her. She shows up like...everywhere to deliver food/ice/etc. She's great.
I like her well enough myself; however, Yu wins in the 'best deadpan character' contest, hands down
Just saying
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Oh how I dislike tsunderes...
Then again, the anime has... what'sherface. That stupid bluehaired girl that delivers for Aiya. Apparently she's super popular...
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Then again, the anime has... what'sherface. That stupid bluehaired girl that delivers for Aiya. Apparently she's super popular...
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Stupid? I dunno, I like her. She shows up like...everywhere to deliver food/ice/etc. She's great.
I like her well enough myself; however, Yu wins in the 'best deadpan character' contest, hands down
Just saying
To quote Youske: "Doesn't anything faze you?"
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I love how they made Narukami in the anime. They took the funniest parts I did in my playthrough (choosing to fill in as the girl in the Mock Gokon AND doing that..... stare.... at Yosuke.) and made him a snarker. Sweet!
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Oh God, he's already in character...
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The most beautiful moment in the anime.
Yeah...I guess you could say that...
What really killed me was when Nanako and Dojima show up later.
"What did that lady call you...she said you were a...a...a mu...a ma..."
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"Oh! That's it, a manwhore!"
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Yeah...I guess you could say that...
What really killed me was when Nanako and Dojima show up later.
"What did that lady call you...she said you were a...a...a mu...a ma..."
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"Oh! That's it, a manwhore!"
Everyone: "..."
What really killed me was when Nanako and Dojima show up later.
"What did that lady call you...she said you were a...a...a mu...a ma..."
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"Oh! That's it, a manwhore!"
Everyone: "..."
Oh man, I laughed so hard at that one
And the whole trip to Gekkoukan was just a barrel of laughs and funny moments: *Yosuke, Kanji and Teddie piled up on the bed together, spinning around*
Yu: *lifts up his camera phone* This is going on my wall.
Yosuke: DON'T YOU EFFING DARE!
And then that club scene...
Yosuke: "Hey dude, don't hog all of them at once!"
Yu: "I can, because I'm the king."
Now I'm the type who only dated one girl per playthrough in my run of the game, but that made me laugh
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Yeah...I guess you could say that...
What really killed me was when Nanako and Dojima show up later.
"What did that lady call you...she said you were a...a...a mu...a ma..."
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"Oh! That's it, a manwhore!"
Everyone: "..."
What really killed me was when Nanako and Dojima show up later.
"What did that lady call you...she said you were a...a...a mu...a ma..."
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"Oh! That's it, a manwhore!"
Everyone: "..."
Oh man, I laughed so hard at that one
And the whole trip to Gekkoukan was just a barrel of laughs and funny moments: *Yosuke, Kanji and Teddie piled up on the bed together, spinning around*
Yu: *lifts up his camera phone* This is going on my wall.
Yosuke: DON'T YOU EFFING DARE!
And then that club scene...
Yosuke: "Hey dude, don't hog all of them at once!"
Yu: "I can, because I'm the king."
Now I'm the type who only dated one girl per playthrough in my run of the game, but that made me laugh
Yeah, that Gekkoukan trip was just me giddy about the music, the characters, and the sights from Persona 3. It did kind of irk me that Chihiro didn't have the right VA but whatevs.
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builderkid107 wrote:
Yeah, that Gekkoukan trip was just me giddy about the music, the characters, and the sights from Persona 3. It did kind of irk me that Chihiro didn't have the right VA but whatevs.
Really? I don't remember her VA very well, so I didn't notice a difference
In any case, yeah; that episode was basically a huge nostalgia trip, but I didn't mind that. Persona 4 is better, but 3 is still rather good Speaking of which, the first of 3 P3 movies came out last November; hopefully it's dubbed and sent stateside sooner then later
Just judging from the trailers, it looks all kinds of awesome 
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I mean, the only important plot stuff in P3 happens only in the months of November, a bit of December and January. The rest is so... not-eventful, it'd be boring to watch a 1 1/2 hour movie about it.
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THREE Persona 3 movies? What do they need THREE movies for?
I mean, the only important plot stuff in P3 happens only in the months of November, a bit of December and January. The rest is so... not-eventful, it'd be boring to watch a 1 1/2 hour movie about it.
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I mean, the only important plot stuff in P3 happens only in the months of November, a bit of December and January. The rest is so... not-eventful, it'd be boring to watch a 1 1/2 hour movie about it.
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Really?
You complained about how the Persona 4 anime was paced too fast, now you're complaining about how Persona 3 is too long for too little? *sigh* There's a lot of stuff they can add and really expand upon, like the whole experiment with the Kirijo group, and Yukari's relationship with her mother, or Junpei's dad, or a whole ton of other things. Of course, I haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know. I do know that Minato rides Mitsuru's motorcycle...while summoning a Persona...in Tartarus...so that's cool.
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THREE Persona 3 movies? What do they need THREE movies for?
I mean, the only important plot stuff in P3 happens only in the months of November, a bit of December and January. The rest is so... not-eventful, it'd be boring to watch a 1 1/2 hour movie about it.
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I mean, the only important plot stuff in P3 happens only in the months of November, a bit of December and January. The rest is so... not-eventful, it'd be boring to watch a 1 1/2 hour movie about it.
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To better pace and detail the overarching plot, I guess. I mean, there IS a lot there, and I'm sure they want to do it justice
Plus, 3 movies for Persona 3 seems... almost poetic Moving on, they look like they'll all have pretty good substance as well.The first movie is called Spring of Birth, and details the events all the way up till (I think) Fukka's full moon. Apparently a big part of the movie is the protagonist's -here he's named Makoto Yuki- character development as he moves from a 'broken and ambivelent' character to gradually working towards true friendship. It's apparently a good film, though suffers from focusing on the introductory part of the game where characters are established and the more 'interesting' things haven't happened yet. However, it's gotten a lot of good reviews, so I remain optimistic that we'll like it here in the west
The second movie is coming out this summer and is called A Midsummer Knight's Dream. Don't know what it covers yet, but the trailer looks cool and introduces my personal favorite character in Persona 3, Aigis
I don't think it's been said when the third movie is being released, but I'd guess this winter. Now speaking personally, both movies look great from the trailers; the animation is phenomonal, and it looks like the soundtrack is back and as stellar as ever. Of course, I can't be certain how great it'll be until I actually watch it as it all comes down to the pacing of the plot, but I'm steadfastly refusing to do so until an official release comes out with the dub
In the meantime, I have high hopes and look forward to the day it DOES come out
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You complained about how the Persona 4 anime was paced too fast, now you're complaining about how Persona 3 is too long for too little? *sigh* There's a lot of stuff they can add and really expand upon, like the whole experiment with the Kirijo group, and Yukari's relationship with her mother, or Junpei's dad, or a whole ton of other things. Of course, I haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know. I do know that Minato rides Mitsuru's motorcycle...while summoning a Persona...in Tartarus...so that's cool.
Agreed; it'll be nice to see the plot elements touched on with a little bit more care, or at the very least style, then the game
And yes, dat motorcycle is pretty cool
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Always liked that bit of backstory, though if they explain that weird cult that's going around a little better that's great too!
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I'd like it if they touched more on the Ken and Shinji scene where
Always liked that bit of backstory, though if they explain that weird cult that's going around a little better that's great too!
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Always liked that bit of backstory, though if they explain that weird cult that's going around a little better that's great too!
Sorry for triple-posting, but yeah; once again, agreed
In fact, fleshing out both their characters would be awesome; in P3P we get to know them and learn that they're both pretty great characters in their own right. In the original game however (or the male protagonist's route) all we know is that... Spoiler:
and neither make a real impact. It'd be nice to see more of them then we did the original game so we can actually get to like them a little more
"No one can change the past. The only thing we can do is strive to make up for our mistakes. Why must we make up for our mistakes, you ask? Because in so doing... we can find the way back to our path. And once we've found our path, we can move on from our past mistakes toward a brighter future."- Phoenix Wright
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