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Still playing Competitive Overwatch, but in the last days I’ve been focusing on expanding my hero pool/train new stuff in Quick Play. D.va and Wrecking Ball are the only tanks I can play ATM (because of their mobility and versatility, I guess).
Oh man I love getting a good swing on Hammond, it's so satisfying when you get a great dunk as well. The patch where they allowed him to shield without coming out of ball form made a world of difference.
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Still playing Competitive Overwatch, but in the last days I’ve been focusing on expanding my hero pool/train new stuff in Quick Play. D.va and Wrecking Ball are the only tanks I can play ATM (because of their mobility and versatility, I guess).
Oh man I love getting a good swing on Hammond, it's so satisfying when you get a great dunk as well. The patch where they allowed him to shield without coming out of ball form made a world of difference.
Yeah, Hammond’s great and one of the most fun video game characters of all times to me. It took me a while to get used to his mechanics, but once I did, I fell in love with the little guy. I find his kit a fresh, original take on what a tank is supposed to be; I like his mobility, and one of the problems I have with playing Reinhardt/Orisa is how slow and limiting they are.
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I like Reinhardt and Orisa a lot though too. Thinks they both fill important roles but the fun hit and run mechanics of Hammond are great. Only thing I hate is when he just decides to windmill around the payload/capture point endlessly to stall but stall tactics are generally annoying.
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And yet I have friends who fall apart at the thought of not having a shield tank in place.
I like Reinhardt and Orisa a lot though too. Thinks they both fill important roles but the fun hit and run mechanics of Hammond are great. Only thing I hate is when he just decides to windmill around the payload/capture point endlessly to stall but stall tactics are generally annoying.
I like Reinhardt and Orisa a lot though too. Thinks they both fill important roles but the fun hit and run mechanics of Hammond are great. Only thing I hate is when he just decides to windmill around the payload/capture point endlessly to stall but stall tactics are generally annoying.
Oh yes, Rein and Orisa definitely have an important place, no doubt. I love a team with a solid, shielded main tank, although they aren’t 100% necessary in every situation.
At the moment, I find it very difficult to play main tanks, though. If I have to play tank, I’ll go off tank, because they give me more offensive prowess, versatility and mobility. Main Tank has less versatility, but a stronger defensive capacity and you need very good gamesense to play them. Like, if you go Rein or Orisa and you screw up, the whole team pays a huge price for your mistake lol. I think MT carries the heaviest responsibility of all team members (and main healer is right next to them, maybe).
This week I started to queue with people who like to play main tanks and main healers, though. They give me the freedom to pick my preferred DPS or off tank/off support.
Also, @Sjibbey, a Tank Main? What a miracle. 85% of everyone I know seems to be either a support main, or DPS main. Tank mains are in great demand in this game.
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Also, @Sjibbey, a Tank Main? What a miracle. 85% of everyone I know seems to be either a support main, or DPS main. Tank mains are in great demand in this game.
Yeah I'm definitely a tank main.
I've always been kind of meh at pure FPS shooters, but I watch high level play on a regular basis plus my favourite OW streamer is a tank main. I know what needs te be done as a tank and how to execute it.
It's impossible when randoms don't communicate in the voice though. The solo tank experience is pretty filled with people dying because they go off on their own, or when I go in to make space the team won't follow through a choke after me.
I've been back to gold rank for some time now, but I'm starting to play the game on a more regular basis again, so with enough perserverance I should at least return to plat.
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Also, @Sjibbey, a Tank Main? What a miracle. 85% of everyone I know seems to be either a support main, or DPS main. Tank mains are in great demand in this game.
Yeah I'm definitely a tank main.
I've always been kind of meh at pure FPS shooters, but I watch high level play on a regular basis plus my favourite OW streamer is a tank main. I know what needs te be done as a tank and how to execute it.
It's impossible when randoms don't communicate in the voice though. The solo tank experience is pretty filled with people dying because they go off on their own, or when I go in to make space the team won't follow through a choke after me.
I've been back to gold rank for some time now, but I'm starting to play the game on a more regular basis again, so with enough perserverance I should at least return to plat.
They say tank is the most ungrateful role: you work hard to create all that space, and few people actually use that space. I was guilty of this myself in my Silver days lol. And in low elos, some people don’t even recognize how well a tank is playing, because in their heads, “playing well = killing a lot”.
Last season, my peak was 2678 SR (low Plat). I’ve been stuck in Gold for a while too (and I’m currently in the 2300 - 2400 SR range), but I just keep grinding - I’m probably still not consistent enough for mid Plat or high Plat.
I don’t usually watch streams but several players/Youtubers inspire me. Level5Pidgey for my D.va, Spirit for my Reaper, Surefour for my Widowmaker/Ashe or snipers/hitscans in general. Would still be stuck in Silver if it wasn’t for these guys’ tips.
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And yet I'm super scrub league
Still I'd say support is probably the least appreciated member of the team. Players can see the tank doing their job but the healers have more things to do and do a lot more work that isn't instantly visible to the other players.
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Wouldn't say I'm a good player by a long shot, but I always try to improve something when I play OW.
Currently I'm focussing on enemy awareness (keeping track of their positions before and during fights) and call-outs (though not everyone hears it)
Thing is, when I play a match everything goes well untill I make 1 mistake which results into the entire team falling apart 90% of the time and properly grouping when that happens is a nightmare. It pisses me off when a main tank is waiting behind a wall to engage with a full team and dps and sometimes healers walk past you into the enemy team.
Not to mention that when some people face the slightest of critique they tilt and start throwing. I not only have to tell everyone what they should do, but also walk on eggshells while doing it.
I miss the days when you could just flank with Roadhog and kill half the enemy team on your own.
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I think anyone in Bronze/Silver could reach Gold/Plat by practicing a lot (something I do). You don’t even need to improve your aim and mechanics that much to climb, tbh. 20% of this game is aim and tracking, the rest is gamesense, tactical knowledge, good reflexes and fast reaction time.
Sjibbey yeah it pisses me off as well when people do stupid things during matches (God knows how this game makes me angry sometimes), but some players are genuinely assholes when they don’t need to be. There is a difference between saying something like “OMG you suck so much” and saying something like “I don’t think X is working”. In the first case, the person is not saying anything helpful or constructive; if anything, receiving harsh criticism or being yelled at will only make the person’s performance drop.
There are players who are definitely too sensitive, though. One time, the enemy team “team killed” us in Volskaya Industries because of a couple of dumb positioning mistakes, and I sent a sarcastic “Thanks” on chat. This was enough to tilt one player who acted all defensive.
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Hey as a tank player I greatly welcome support mains, especially good lucio's make my job a lot easier. What I also see a lot is when healers hard-pocket their dps companion, which I can play around, but yesterday a guy wouldn't heal me even though I was standing still in front of him with 50% HP I had to block him for a solid 5 seconds before he healed me.
The thing is, especially when I play reinhart, is when I get healed a lot that allows me to put more pressure on their tank line, I do more damage so my ult charges faster (and the healers ult with it) which often results in the first fight win. From there you can pick enemies apart until they throw ults at you.
No or little healing means I have to set up near a choke / wall and rely on DPS to kill the enemy team. Which is fine if the DPS does what it needs to do: have a character that counters them and kill stuff.
So if a healer hard-pockets a DPS player who's not getting (important!) kills you lose a game straight up. Sometimes a DPS swap can remedy the situation, but as previously stated, suggesting to someone that they should swap to counter the enemy can be perceived as criticism and they tilt making the losing game a straight 5 - 6.
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Also had a reasonably good time as Roadhog. Landed those hooks and got the win.
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Anyway, I’m tired of BS cheese compositions in Comp, generally centered around Orisa + Bastion + Torbjörn + Baptiste or some kind of variation thereof.
Torbjorn’s turret is so annoying if you are playing a 200 HP character; it is like you almost have to kill yourself to destroy that turret. Nobody wants to deal with that turret (so I often have to go after it alone), and even when you destroy it, the midget can just set up another one in a couple of seconds.
Yesterday I had the worst match in King’s Row on Attack. The enemy Torb was babysitting his turret on high ground, and the rest of the Defense was grouped in the choke (Orisa + Baptiste + a bunch of DPS).
My team was acting like a bunch of morons and trying to ignore the turret while going straight to the point. Everyone was dying all the time, so I went on a solo flanking mission as Reaper to destroy the turret and kill the Torb. I survived, but barely. Then I got a health pack, attacked the choke from behind and killed the Orisa and Baptiste before dying.
So I do a 1v3, kill half of the enemy team (including their main tank and main healer), but my team can’t do a 5v3? What a joke. Sometimes it feels like the only way you can win, is by doing 100% everything yourself.
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Think you need to get yourself a team of likeminded players who are willing to adapt and focus the important things.
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Yeah but they'll always work to make it impossible to do everything yourself.
Think you need to get yourself a team of likeminded players who are willing to adapt and focus the important things.
Think you need to get yourself a team of likeminded players who are willing to adapt and focus the important things.
Yeah lately I’ve been trying to at least duo queue more often. My main duo partner is a support main, and our win rates together are great. In the last weekend we queued in stacks of 5 and 6, and I believe it was the funniest experience I had with OW. It’s great when everyone is communicating, and on the same page.
But I can’t queue with others all the time lol. I like to solo queue here and there, because I want to feel like my presence and impact is enough to make a team win. But this isn’t always the case, and it is frustrating.
In my birthday, I’m probably getting a new computer, so I’ll start playing on PC. Curious to see what are the differences between playing on console and on PC.
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PS: Sjibbey, since you’re trying to get into Wrecking Ball, I’ll recommend you this very short introductory Yeatle video. This guy helped me tons with WB.
I'll check it out, but the only cure for a lack of experience is practice. Things like swinging 100% the way I want, piledriving into unloading a clip (and hit the shots) and finish them of with a melee.
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Yeah but they'll always work to make it impossible to do everything yourself.
Think you need to get yourself a team of likeminded players who are willing to adapt and focus the important things.
Think you need to get yourself a team of likeminded players who are willing to adapt and focus the important things.
You're not wrong, but there are several butts to this argument. queing up with 1 or 2 friends is great, but go in with more than 3 people and the system will place you against noticably harder opponents.
Also in the lower ranks a lot of the matches start looking a lot like team deathmatch style fights since everyone does his own thing more or less. In this style a Wrecking Ball would give great opportunities to the DPS, while being mobile enough to not become a giant target for the entire enemy team (which is exactly what happens when you play rein, but you play around that)
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In my birthday, I’m probably getting a new computer, so I’ll start playing on PC. Curious to see what are the differences between playing on console and on PC.
I'm curious as well since I never played on console. I always imagined characters who are weak to snipers get a significant edge on console (like pharah), but let me know what you think when you get there. Also post your battletag so we can play a few rounds if we find each other online.
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You're not wrong, but there are several butts to this argument. queing up with 1 or 2 friends is great, but go in with more than 3 people and the system will place you against noticably harder opponents.
Also in the lower ranks a lot of the matches start looking a lot like team deathmatch style fights since everyone does his own thing more or less. In this style a Wrecking Ball would give great opportunities to the DPS, while being mobile enough to not become a giant target for the entire enemy team (which is exactly what happens when you play rein, but you play around that)
Also in the lower ranks a lot of the matches start looking a lot like team deathmatch style fights since everyone does his own thing more or less. In this style a Wrecking Ball would give great opportunities to the DPS, while being mobile enough to not become a giant target for the entire enemy team (which is exactly what happens when you play rein, but you play around that)
Yeah but that's a natural progression to balance the scales right? If you are a team the game will presume you have better teamwork and communication and so you might utterly crush your opponents if they didn't try and balance it by pairing you with equally bigger teams. The game isn't going to want to make it a cakewalk because that would be no fun to other players.
This is potentially great as it gives you better teamwork with an option to practice against stronger foes and take your game to the next level.
I mean if you just want to win a bunch then you could take that skilled and good attitude towards teamwork and demolish all of Quickplay. Sure there's no ranks there but if you are "comfortable" with your current rank and the challenge level is no longer fun for you then I'm not sure I see many other solutions.
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But I think it is bulls*** to make people who are queuing together face opponents of much higher skill level. Just because I am queuing in a group of 4 and we are in a win streak, I have to face high Plat opponents as a Gold? It is wrong IMO.
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Well, I've gone ahead and pre-ordered Three Houses. Here's hoping it's worthy of the hype; July 26 cannot come soon enough. Thanks to a panel I attended at E3, I've also got my eye on The Outer Worlds. I can't say I approve of the game being unavailable on Steam until (presumably) late 2020, but thankfully, they're also releasing it for the PS4.
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I was so pissed yesterday because I spent an entire day grinding in the 1st palace of Persona 5, but like an idiot since im not used to it, I didnt manage my time because I didnt know it takes two more days to send the calling card and fight the boss, so all that grinding went to waste
You don't even need to grind much in that palace. I did grind Morgana to Level 11, so he'd have Media, but that's it.
I am enjoying Berserk and the Band of the Hawks. Basically a Dynasty Warriors with Berserk paint, but it's nice.
I am disappointed that shirtless-Guts from The Eclipse isn't an actual costume to unlock.
Similarly, post-Eclipse Casca with long hair and her robe is ALSO not an unlockable costume! Why?! I know she doesn't fight in that appearance (at least, by chapter 355, when she regains her memories, she hasn't), but... it's a game! Let me have some fun. Let me go with my fantasy of seeing long-haired Casca fighting again. Especially if using her in the Endless Eclipse mode! Given what her dream/mental world turned out to be like, I think it would be a really cool nod to that.
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I was so pissed yesterday because I spent an entire day grinding in the 1st palace of Persona 5, but like an idiot since im not used to it, I didnt manage my time because I didnt know it takes two more days to send the calling card and fight the boss, so all that grinding went to waste
You don't even need to grind much in that palace. I did grind Morgana to Level 11, so he'd have Media, but that's it.
I just like to make sure Im a good enough lv cuz the bosses still do a good amount of dmg even when im a good lv. Right now im at lv 21 on the 3rd palace. Already hate it since phy attacks dont do much so its a real sp drainer.
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